In reply to Dan_S:
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> I was up there on Saturday having a walk. There was a fair amount of ice under foot, and some very icy snow in places. The downfall area still had bits of ropey looking ice and snow on it, certainly not in winter condition though, but probably not in trad climbing condition either.
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> It was 6 degrees and raining hard in New Mills this morning, so It'll help strip things further I'd imagine.
I ran along most of the western edge of Kinder on Sunday in the Kinder Trial and the crags were all either covered in snow or heavily rimed. The downfall itself still has a lot of ice on it and is still sporting an impending and impressive neve cornice. There is a lot of water running behind the ice and I doubt that it's currently climbable.
It is indeed 6 deg C and raining heavily as I look out of my window towards Kinder but I see that we're forecast a heavy dump of snow so don't get too excited about it stripping any time soon. Why not head over to Frodsham and help out with the clean-up? It's good karma for starting the climbing year