In reply to UKC Gear:
i'm very happy with my BD patrols which have a slightly lower temp rating, however i probably wouldn't use them for pure ice climbing as i'm not sure they'd be dextrous enough. they are great for skiing though esp for hamdling ski edges which can shred non-leather palms. i do think BD have got the sizing right....no dangly bits where your finger don't touch the ends which i've noticed with other makes.