In reply to Alan James - Rockfax:
> (In reply to mutt)
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> There are 9 routes at Castillo and 157 routes at Guadalest overall. I think you have severely mis-judged the crag based on your experience on a few routes. It does sound like there has been some building work as well which will have impacted on the place I am sure.
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> I suggest you vote on the routes on the RF database here -
http://www.rockfax.com/databases/results_buttress.html?id=1488
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> The current opinions registered there appear to favour the star rating in the current guide.
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> Please don't make the mistake of assuming that when a guidebook is different to your opinion, the only viable reason is because the information hasn't been 'checked'.
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> Alan
Alan, I think you need to read the comments on the link you have posted. let me quote a few for you
'Not sure how this gets two stars.'
'The description and grade for this route are both wrong (imho).....'
'... Not a clear line and a duff route - i'd leave out of any updates'
'Not worth 2 stars. Unbalanced, scrappy climbing eventually leads to a rather more impressive couple of finishing moves, which are tough for the grade.'
'Plod and plod some more and enjoy the sun. Climbers equivalent to sitting on beach. Wake up for the top move avoiding the wasps nest (in crack) that is presently there!!'
'loose and unpleasant. large areas of rock scarring are rather unsettling. the climbing is easy until the last bolt.' (that one is mine)
'Start behind the bush! 2 distinct cruxes but not enough good climbing on it to be 2*.'
so it seems I'm not alone in thinking this is a pretty crap set of routes to be so liberally sprinkled with stars!