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John Seamons 28 Dec 2005
BBC Radio 1 is funded by the license fee. But it is totally in the pocket of the record companies.

I can't think of a show in the Radio 1 schedule where a DJ actually comments on the quality (or not) of the records that they play. Rarely do you hear one of the DJs dare to say something negative about one of the playlist records. They just keep churning them out.

When did Radio 1 become such a corporate kiss ass?!

Surely our license fee should go towards a station that champions new, innovative music, not one that just churns out Simon Cowells latest abominations without engaging its critical faculty.
In reply to John Seamons:

I listen to R1 fairly regulary and its quite common to hear the DJs slagging off records. Moyles in particular likes to slag off stuff he doesn't like, especially the Streets.
 KeithW 28 Dec 2005
In reply to John Seamons:

You've only just noticed this?!

Even back when I started listening (and I stopped shortly after); it was always bland, corporate pap. Nothing to do with any genuinely new and/or different music.
 Chris the Tall 28 Dec 2005
In reply to John Seamons:
> Surely our license fee should go towards a station that champions new, innovative music, not one that just churns out Simon Cowells latest abominations without engaging its critical faculty.

Buy at DAB radio and listen to 6music - it's proof that the Reith principles are still alive at the BBC

John Seamons 28 Dec 2005
> Buy at DAB radio and listen to 6music - it's proof that the Reith principles are still alive at the BBC

Proof that the Reith principle is dead and burried - I HAVE to buy a DAB to hear it!

Dont get me started on Freeview - If you have to buy a box, ITS NOT BLOODY FREE.
In reply to John Seamons:

It's not that uncommon to hear them slag a few off. JK and Joel do the chart show and they make negative remarks about tunes on that. They are shite though.,
Mark and Lard were the most opionated and wouldn't even name tracks they hated, of which there were hundreds. Particularly Sean Paul's pish.

Davie
John Seamons 28 Dec 2005
I used to love Mark and Lard - when they had to play something they hated, they talked over most of it - genius! I was gutted when they went.
 Chris the Tall 28 Dec 2005
In reply to John Seamons:
I don't remember Lord Reith saying that the BBC should be handing out free radios!!!

Mind you, we won a very nice DAB radio on 6music....
 CENSORED 28 Dec 2005
In reply to John Seamons: Yes, exactly like the TV that you have to buy and the license fee that you have to pay, or the radio that you have to buy but don't have to have a license for....
John Seamons 28 Dec 2005
I take the point - problem is:

1. cant receive it in my area - requires booster aereal (£100+) plus DAB
2. no option to stay with existing service (being turned off)
3. more choice does not equal better quality

Reith did not of course say that. However, if he knew that the license fee was being channeled into areas which only currently benefit a MINORITY of license payers, he would probably have been disgusted.
In reply to John Seamons:

> However, if he knew that the license fee was being channeled into areas which only currently benefit a MINORITY of license payers, he would probably have been disgusted.

Must admit I've not heard of this chap, but surely you either produce music for lots of minorities (i.e. DAB stuff) or you produce lots of middle-of-the-road crap for everyone? (i.e.ITV). I know which I prefer.
John Hewitt 28 Dec 2005
In reply to John Seamons:

I can't be bothered with it anymore. I listen Vic Galloway and Mary Ann-Kennedy on BBC Radio Scotland.

JH
dave needs training 28 Dec 2005
In reply to John Seamons: at the risk of sounding old, try radio 2, some djs on there often say, for instance had to play that, but not my choice, or worse, one the other day, stopped one mid record and said, quote - not playing that utter tosh any longer - unquote. brilliant!
 Steve Parker 28 Dec 2005
Not quite on topic, but mark Radtcliffe gave Weller's new single a good slagging the other night on Radio 2. A Chaz and Dave B side, I believe he called it. Well done, Mark! You're spot on.
 pdhu 29 Dec 2005
In reply to John Seamons:

Hats off to 'em for this etc

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/onemusic/huw/festive50.shtml

Required reading for your ears.
 JWB 29 Dec 2005
In reply to KeithW: If you listen to Radio 1 in the evenings (Zane Lowe, then the specialist shows at 9pm) you will here plenty of new music, well it is new to me and I listen to radio 1 for most of my waking hours.

John

John Seamons 29 Dec 2005
In reply to PatEase: Thats fair enough - but as far as I know, the Festive 50 was established by John Peel. It does not really represent the stations current output now that Peel, Radcliffe, etc have moved on.

What I am really talking about is the mainstream DJs - I listen to quite a bit of Radio 1 in the daytime (in the background). It seems to be mostly manufactured crap like Will Young, Girls Aloud, Sugar Babes, Pussycat Dolls.

Even people like Jo Whiley play a substantial amount of tosh - I used to love the Evening Session, but since Jo moved to a daytime slot her taste seems to have been steam rolled by the playlist. She should know better!

ICE 29 Dec 2005
In reply to John Seamons: Yup, radio is not worth listening to anymore, sometimes tune into radio 2 on an afternoon, but aside from that there is little I want to listen to, its the big 4 record companies that control radio now, and the OP point is well made, it should not be controlling radio 1, we pay for that and they should be playing a much wider choice of music, someone in guitarist mag this month made the point that a heavy rock band had two 'real' top 20 hits in the last 2 years i.e. thay actually sold some records rather than the airplay that most other releases uses to get a chart listing, yet they got no airplay.
 HIGHTOWER 30 Dec 2005
In reply to John Seamons: So what else is there on normal radio? All the tin pot local radio stations are far worse for constantly playing manufactured bands. Radio 1 plays far more new music than anything else I've heard, and no adverts.
 Dominion 30 Dec 2005
In reply to dave needs training:

> one the other day, stopped one mid record and said, quote - not playing that utter tosh any longer - unquote. brilliant!

Sorry, that suggests he's broadcasting music that he hasn't already listened to (presumably because it's on a playlist)

I'm suggesting he should have listened to it (or a bit of it) first, then never played/mentioned it.

If this discretion was applied throughout, then - for instance - that sodding Crazy Frog song wouldn't have Number One for 4 weeks (or whatever), and possibly wouldn't have charted at all...

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