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Figrure of 9 knot....What's all that about..??

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Keith Roughley 30 Jan 2006

Just reading Andy Kirk's article in Climb No 12 in which he recommends a 'figure of 9' knot on dodgy winter belays.......

Please educate me...I've never heard of it...??

Kate 30 Jan 2006

In reply to Keith Roughley: here's a description here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure-of-nine_loop

Andy S 30 Jan 2006

In reply to Keith Roughley:
Always easy to undo, even if it's been loaded, like, alot. I use it sometimes, it's good!

OP Keith Roughley 30 Jan 2006

In reply to Andy S:

Can you please explain in practical terms and in a sort of viual sense how you tie it....???

Norrie Muir 30 Jan 2006

In reply to Keith Roughley:

> Please educate me...I've never heard of it...??

Dear Keith

You've heard of grade creep, well this is knot creep.

Norrie

Neil Conway 30 Jan 2006

In reply to Keith Roughley:

Does this help?

http://www-sop.inria.fr/agos-sophia/sis/Techniques/knots.html

Pedro50 30 Jan 2006

In reply to Norrie Muir:

> (In reply to Keith Roughley)
> [...]
>
> Dear Keith
>
> You've heard of grade creep, well this is knot creep.
>
> Norrie

Or not apparently

emo 30 Jan 2006

figure of 8 with an extra 180deg turn before puttin loop through. Doesnt look like a 9 just a figure of speech

Craig Geddes 30 Jan 2006

In reply to Keith Roughley: Is particuarly good for rigging a belay that its going te be repeatedly loaded such as with a group or when several people are abseiling. Is very useful for tying in long slings that are being used to equalise as over cinching can be a real problem.

Gordon Stainforth 31 Jan 2006

In reply to Keith Roughley:

It's good for the main anchor on a static line, when jumaring/abseiling with a very heavy camera load etc.

Andy S 31 Jan 2006

In reply to Keith Roughley:
Yeah emo's right. Go to tie a figure eight, but before you put the end through the hole, go round and put it through the other side instead.

Pollitt 31 Jan 2006

In reply to Keith Roughley: Figure 9 is used by CUI in canada. they love it. Its suposed to be easy to undo but i find it just the same as a figure 8