In reply to Steve Q: Alright mate it's Adam from Simpsons I have no objections to your proposed idea, and I am probably speaking for alot of people in the area. A word about the landowner I thought the crag was owned by the outdoor centre, who bought it some years ago and placed a lot of in situ abseil bolts (could be wrong though) if however I am right they have absolutely no problem with gardening as it was they who considerably changed the physical features of the crag. It's also good to see that 'Vic, S' whoever the fecker is can offer such constructive feedback on an issue which could become a serious one 'in terms of injury'. Anyway where does he get off saying that Malham is a good crag it's that polished you can see your face in it. It's good of you to ask for our opinion mate most would have just pulled the block out. Hope this helps Steve, see you around Adam.