In reply to Gordon Stainforth:
Agreed...but the start of Charity is another story. Also, The Red Slab is not for ingenious VD leaders although it may well be a route for HS leaders ingeniously pretnding to be VD leaders. The other sad thing is all of the routes well known classics. There are loads of hidden VD delights in the Ogwen guide.
I guess I expected too much from this and to be fair I'm not the target audience.
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