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NEWS: Jon Bracey, Neil Brodie, Jonny Baird on Grandes Jorasses

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 Michael Ryan 28 Sep 2007
The Alps has experienced stable weather and good conditions, especially on the Grandes Jorasses where Jon Bracey completed two grande courses in a week, one of which together with Neil Brodie was the first British repeat of the Whymper Spur Original' aka Bonatti-Vaucher (6th - 9th August 1964, 1,100...

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Neil Brodie 01 Oct 2007
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:

TWO CLIMBERS MAKE UMPTEENTH ASCENT OF ROUTE FIRST CLIMBED 45 YEARS AGO !!!

Bit thin on news this week Mick ?
In reply to Neil Brodie:
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> TWO CLIMBERS MAKE UMPTEENTH ASCENT OF ROUTE FIRST CLIMBED 45 YEARS AGO !!!
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> Bit thin on news this week Mick ?

Neil,

not trying to make you look a better climber than you already are , but:

1) It's not the "umpteenth" ascent, only the eight "confirmed" (or ninth, depending if you summited before the other team or not - still haven't checked the Boccalatte book)

2) It may have been climbed 45 years ago, but the Bonatti-Vaucher was far ahead of its time. Harder than the MacIntyre-Colton (opened 13 years later with more advanced material), or so goes the local buzz (you decide!).

3) It's the Grandes Jorasses, for Pete's sake!

OP Michael Ryan 01 Oct 2007
In reply to Neil Brodie:
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> Bit thin on news this week Mick ?

I wish. Not thin on anything...that's the problem.

I'll continue.

Mick

OP Michael Ryan 01 Oct 2007
In reply to Neil Brodie:
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> TWO CLIMBERS MAKE UMPTEENTH ASCENT OF ROUTE FIRST CLIMBED 45 YEARS AGO !!!
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> Bit thin on news this week Mick ?

Inspirational as well Neil......motivating even!

In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:
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> Inspirational as well Neil......motivating even!

It's called "British self-deprecating humour", and is envied more or less everywhere else in Europe

In reply to Neil Brodie: Well... you've inspired me. The Colton/Mac is one of my dream routes.

How many ascents has it had?

Scottish Grad VI 5? or not really comparable?

I take it's like climbing all the grade VI routes on indicator wall in day, at altitude? I.e Phyadellic, Riders, Albatross, and then yet more.
 smithaldo 03 Oct 2007
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:

http://www.nevasport.com/phorum/read.php?10,1121996

good link to pictures on here tom, looks pretty nails, especially the mixed pitch he is on, report on alpinist on these spanish dudes who did it in a round trip from malaga in three days, including driving in.

Gives the grade as m6, so alot harder than VI 5 I would have thought.
 Andy Hobson 03 Oct 2007
In reply to smithaldo:

Thanks for that link; good to see some photos of the route.

Tom: You can't really compare continental mixed grades to Scottish but as a rough guide, add 1 to the M grade for the overall Scottish grade ie. M6 is roughly equivalent to Scots VII.
Anonymous 03 Oct 2007
In reply to Andy Hobson: Andy, I still have that friend for you. Do you want me to post it?

Tom
 smithaldo 03 Oct 2007
In reply to Andy Hobson:

or maybe more if it's not bolted mixed!

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