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Did a link up of All Quiet into Western Front today. Sure it's been done plenty in the past but just wondering if anyone knows if it has a name and/or grade for it. I'd hazard a guess it's inevitably called all quiet on the western front? Anyway, it's probably the best pitch I've done at Almscliff, taking in the best sections of 4 classic routes and really nice and continuous. Is this the true 5* route of the crag?! On a similar theme, starting as for western front but then climbing the diagonal break/crack into the finish of crack of doom would give a good E2 5c(?) pitch. Name anyone?
Interestingly, both these lines make as much sense as that of Great Western really.

In reply to Steve Ramsden: I don't have a guidebook to hand, but I seem to remember a route called All Quiet On The Western Front in there. Whether it's what you describe I can't remember but it seems pretty likely.
Sam

In reply to Steve Ramsden: It's probably the same grade as the original, as for the name, it's be silly to be called anything else!

You done Em's Telegram, that's brilliant too.

In reply to Sam L: yeah I havn't got the routes guide.... There's definitely 'All Quiet...' and 'Western Front' but don't remember seeing 'All Quiet on the Western Front' in there!

In reply to andi turner:
fair point


no, where does it go? (havn't got the guide)

In reply to Sam L: Certainly nothing in the latest guide called All Quiet on the Western Front.

In reply to Steve Ramsden: "The Ems Telegram 20m E5 P2 1977
6b A tip-toe left and a bold lurch from a letterbox gain good holds on Western Front and good Friends. Swing left to the nose and a perfect small runner in a horizontal break (unfortunately hard to place). Another swng left and down (crux) leads to a good handhold below the base of the curving crack. Pull Awkwardly into this, getting tired by now, to join and finish up The Wall of Horrors."

In reply to Lemony: cool, thanks

In reply to Steve Ramsden:

All Quiet links Wall of Horrors with Crack of Doom, which sounds like just where you went?


Chris

In reply to Chris Craggs: I finished up western front though instead of going right to crack of doom. Slightly harder variation on All Quiet.

In reply to Chris Craggs: Almost! You do the start of WOH, then traverse right until under the Y of Western Front, then climb the big diagonal crack to join the sling runner on Great Western/Crack of Doom and finish up Crack of Doom. What Steve did was climb to beneath the Y but then climb it, effectively throwing in the crux of western front for good measure.

In reply to andi turner:

OK - clear enough now.

Of course the point of All Quiet was to climb as much new rock as possible. I don't really think starting up one route and finishing up another is normally worthy of a separate entry - but then again.........


Chris

In reply to andi turner: nice one. will give it a spin when it cools off a bit! Was reasonable conditions on that face today though with the breeze on it. Made a nice change from the lime anyway.

In reply to Steve Ramsden:

At least you'll know how to deal with crux on it now after doing All Quiet. It is a really good climb, good gear and pumpy.