In reply to jwi:
> (In reply to TobyA) I have always thought that bolts are never acceptable on long routes in Norway, except for fixed descent-routes and in some special cases for belays.
What then are the special cases?
> The shorter the route, the more lax attitude to bolting: for sport crags they are totally OK,
Although they don't seem to bolt unnecessarily (i.e. cracks) at least not up north where I've climbed (perfectly sensible to my mind).
> for 2-4 pitches minimal bolting should be practised, and for long routes no bolting.
I don't really get what minimal bolting is - Solens Sønner on Lofoten for example? One man's minimal is likely to be another man's clip up. And from my limited experience, Klubbruta on Eidetind has chains all (or perhaps - 'some') of the way up it and that is much more than 4 pitches. We never used them as somehow our 50 metre pitches weren't quite in sync with the bolted belays, but they were clearly unnecessary as belays were easy to build. If you didn't want to climb to the top and walk down, I guess you could of abbed off them though.
What about the main face of Baugen at Hollenderan? Is that bolt free? We did Gallionsruta on the side and follows the bolted descent in effect.
> Not very complicated is it?
It's not particularly simple either!