In reply to UKC Gear: i love it when companies do something different, and then marketing takes the lead insted of the product,
for the other side of the story see what black diamond say
http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com/en-gb/blog/index/view/slug/upgrade-to-...
i have only put this here in the interest of fairness and have no link to either company blah disclaimer!
hopefully the end user can decide, honestly i dont know, but time will tell if one or the other is better, either way i would be happy to use either when my old ones wear out eventually