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Tangent to the other thread - what cars would you like to own before you die? Has to be relatively achievable rather than just wild fantasy - think affordable classics.

Here's mine for starters:

Jag XJR-S (http://www.jag-lovers.org/xj-s/xjrs/facelift.htm )

In reply to quadmyre:

My car...if I ever get the loan paid off.

In reply to quadmyre:

1969 911S.

ERA or BRM (okay, slightly more fantastical, although the BRM might be achievable)

http://www.photographersdirect.com/buyers/stockphoto.asp?imageid=2373799

youtube.com/watch?v=fZMPDCNyQxE&

In reply to quadmyre:

TVR Cerbera and shares in the AA

In reply to quadmyre: I planning on the following in no specific order:

1956 Jaguar XK-140

Ferrari F355

Ferrari 458 italia

Lancia stratos

BMW E46 m3 csl (again!)

In reply to quadmyre: Jaguar XJ220 for me

In reply to 5cifi:

Now I don't want to make assumptions about your resources ... but not sure that really fits the 'realistic affordable' category!

In reply to quadmyre: £100000. Sell my house and live in a caravan ?

In reply to quadmyre: I already own a 1972 MG Midget. I hope to have completed it's ground up restoration (started in 1998) before I die but the more work I do on it, the less likely that seems.

In reply to quadmyre:

I just bought it on Sunday. MX5 mk 1, British racing green with tan leather interior.

Mechanically sound, fairly low mileage, very tatty interior. I had one years ago, but the 'normal' silver one with cloth interior, always wanted this one. Not expensive at all, cost £1,000, probably spend double that doing it up, but it'll be nice when it's finished.

It's not a supercar by any means, but damn good fun.

In reply to quadmyre:

I have a sneaky feeling the next one will be an Impreza of some sort.

What I really really want is to scratch build my own big coupe but at the moment I don't dare start for a number of (mostly lame) reasons.

jk

In reply to quadmyre: 1964/65 Ford Mustang Coupe as shown in the Steve McQueen film Bullit. One of sexiest sounding and looking cars of all time.

Al

In reply to quadmyre: Keeping it realistic, a Lotus Elise (R or SC).

Less realistic I'd have a Jag XF-R to drive around with bikes and kayaks strapped all over it and an Aston of some description for day cragging trips...

In reply to quadmyre:

Mk1 Escort Mexico

In reply to quadmyre:

'82 Vette

but it's waaaaaaaay down on my list of priorities

In reply to quadmyre:

Good thread. Call it mid-life crisis or what you will but it dawned on me the other day that I've never owned a car with a turbo, not one. I've driven some fast cars in my time (including an ex-boss's Merc V12 turbo - that I got a wheel-spin out of at 60mph!) and one of the most fun was the Renault 5 turbo, fast as last night's Balti, but I'd really like some ideas about getting one for myself now. Not new, just a classic tubo-charged sports before I go the way of the worms...

In reply to quadmyre: my ambition is to own a car who current model is still in production :~>

In reply to quadmyre:

M3 - I'm a simple kinda lass...

In reply to Cerulean: I read it as "like to own" I doubt I will ever own a Ford Mustang. My mid-life crisis was satisfied briefly by owning a Toyota Supra. 3litres of Turbo charged gas guzzling sex on wheels. Unfortunately it wasn't a case of my wife telling me it was her or the car it was climbing or the car. She was right I was always topping up the fuel and a head gasket set me back £1200.

Al

In reply to quadmyre:

I've recently sold my E30 325i so I could buy a VW Corrado 1.8 16v.
Have wanted one for a long time but never actually bought one till now. Came close a few years ago but ended up buying a kitcar (cheapo version of Lotus/Caterham 7) instead as I also had a recently bought Scirocco at the time and didn't want to get rid of it.


But if I was pushed it would be a difficult choice between an old Porsche 911 or Caterham 7.

In reply to quadmyre:

Still wondering which way to go:

http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?t=374731&v=1#x5437603

Have added GTi and Type R into the mix!

Chris

In reply to Cerulean:

New ish (<5years, <50k) Imprezas are looking pretty good value at the moment. Very quick without feeling scary to push, good reliability in standard trim, easy to live with if you can afford the fuel and insurance. S14 200SX is a lot of car for the money too if you can put up with the slightly chavy image (I could for what you get). Efini RX7 with both blowers working is the hair-on-fire, money-up-in-smoke choice for the true connoisseur

Thinking about it (the original question), I still really want an E31 BMW but I guess it'd have to be a late manual 840Ci or an 850Csi if I was going to waste that much money on that much trouble

jk

In reply to marie:


Which one? I'd love an old E30 Evo but they're stupid money these days.
jk

In reply to quadmyre:

TVR Tuscan

In reply to quadmyre:

None! The less I own, the happier I will be.

In reply to quadmyre:

I have wondered about a Porsche 911, largely because rear-engined cars have such phenomenal braking ability and it would be good to be able to have that ability again on twisty highland hill roads. However, I am not so keen to own things like that, especially having had so much fun in cars owned by other people!

In reply to Jon Jones:

Lol, good taste that man. Has always been my (somewhat realisticly) dream car. Although that current Nissan GTR does push it close, as far as VFM goes, that'll take some beating.

The Zonda C12F / Cinque wins the unrealistic catagory.

In reply to jkarran:
Lol an RX7 burned passed me on the toll road late last year as I was pootling along at 90 in my old E36. Definitely had the wow-factor and looks a proper 'sports'. They're the ones with the ceramic turbo yes? Always loved the 200SX you know (had a Matchbox as a kid) and with the right trim I reckon they duck under the chav barrier OK. Don't know what you'd pay for a good one though.

Just autotrader'd a Subaru but never know which spec would be right, Impreza STI maybe?

I read a clasic sports mag in a doctor's surgery recently and they were covering the 840. Still a lovely motor.

In reply to Chris Craggs:

Ahhh...But could you fit a 41 inch brute of a Sony TV on the back seat?

In reply to quadmyre:

Realistically a Volvo Amazon.

In reply to James Paul Robinson:

Nah - but I could get a 42" Panasonic plasma job in there!


Chris

In reply to quadmyre: DB4 or 5

In reply to jkarran: The best M3 ever made........after the limited run e46 csl! Hard to find mint unfortunately

In reply to quadmyre:

Since I was about 20 I've always had three must have cars on my list. A Super 7, a 2CV and an early 70s 911. I've ticked the Super 7 and I occasionally come close to saying WTF and buying a 2CV on the spur of the moment. An old 911 is beyond the piggy bank just now, and if it wasn't I'd probably spend it on several months unpaid leave instead.

More sensibly, a 944 or 968. I also occasionally teeter on the edge of buying a 2.7 8 valve 944. Not the fastest or sexiest, but probably the nicest and best handling reasonably practical car I've ever driven.

In reply to quadmyre:
I'm not keen on owning a flash car.

Now if I could get a car which is paid for by someone else...

I think I'd go for a Bowler Nemesis. Plus the training to get the best out of it. And then work my way up over a few years to do the Dakar in 2015 (give or take a year).

That would be FUN.

For the beauty of the thing, I'd go for a D Type or an XKSS. Gorgeous machines.

In reply to quadmyre:

An RS4 Avant. Practical yet swift.

In reply to quadmyre:

i'd settle for ANY car, along perhaps with a driving licence.

I'm yet to experience the pleasure of car ownership so I'll start small.

A Honda Civic (new shape one) looks nice tho

In reply to quadmyre:

Not too familiar with classic cars, the upkeep scares me though modern cars can be just as bad. Though old Astons are very nice to look at.

If i had pots of cash i'd be happy with an Aston Martin V12 Vantage in white or an Audi R8 in black.
Currently have a Honda Civic which i commonly refer to Billy the Fish and intend to trade it in but stumped between either a Mini Cooper S, new VW Scirocco or Audi S3. Or the unsuitable S2000.

Have driven both a Ferrari 360 and Lamborghini Murcielago on a track day a few years ago and hated both.

In reply to quadmyre:

Either

An Impreza STi (any of them really!)

or

a breathed on Focus ST

In reply to quadmyre:

If you mean immediately before I die it's likely to to be an 80's 911 Turbo or a TR6.

In reply to Dave Garnett:

Depending on whether you want to slide into hell backwards or forward?

In reply to quadmyre:

Any that are reliable and fuel efficient

But I've always had a hankering after the vw golf gti (I think?) that my mum had, it was ace... So, be nice to have one like that at some point

In reply to quadmyre:

Ariel Atom: http://www.arielatom.com/

In reply to quadmyre:

Before I die, gotto be a hover car, a retrofit kit on big wing mk1 ekky would make me very happy.

In reply to quadmyre:

Maserati Shamal.

Or Citroen Dyane Acadian.

In reply to Jim Fraser: Audi Sport Quattro

In reply to quadmyre: Driving a 3.0 Z4 at the moment, and it sure doesn't like the present conditions. I don't know what I'd have if money wasn't an issue, but I'd have a helluva time finding out.

In reply to quadmyre: bowler wildcat please nom nom nom

In reply to quadmyre:

2003 Ford Focus Zetec 1.6 estate, please.

In reply to mlt:


God, I admire you.

An R8 in this corner, though

In reply to tradlad: I think I read they cheated a bit with that car- they had a huge engine from a NASCAR racer planted in it- that's why it sounded that way-just sublime..

In reply to Jim Fraser:

A friend of mine has just bought a 911 996 and that is so much fun. Not driven it yet but he's promised me a few lessons. We just took it across the Fens, though. If I remember correctly, I think I screamed, it was so much fun.

In reply to quadmyre:

Something much better than the gas guzzlers that are around now. A friend of mine has just got a brilliantly designed little Hyundai, that's very impressive in every way, and beautifully made.

In reply to sarah79:

my brother had a lovely 911, kitted out for racing, but unfortunately he blew it up on the Nurburgring. Oops.

In reply to Jim Fraser:

Quite.

If I win the lottery, it might have to be an Aston of some sort. If I'm being picky, a Vantage V12. I might consider an R8 if I could find one a sensible colour.

In reply to quadmyre:

youtube.com/watch?v=2hxy8yQvUmk&

In reply to Cerulean: I briefly owned a Renault 5 Turbo 11, the mid engined one- what a hoot, 4 foot flames out the devil exhaust, it was like being in a cardboard box strapped to a rocket, but great fun, if very scary. All glass fibre and aluminium, with a wee engine with a great hulking Garrett T4 bolted on (same size as sierra cosworth) Turbo lag- all or nothing and mechanical fuel injection that just kept on pumping on the over run-hence the big flames. Wish I'd kept it!

In reply to quadmyre:

A Lotus and a TVR. Ideally an Elise and a TVR 3000M or a Vixen. A classic Jag would be nice as well.

In reply to Dave Garnett:

As an 18 year old (this was in mesolithic times), I was ridiculously fortunate to have some access to a 1969 Aston Martin DBS when I visited my uncle. Sliding that thing through narrow bends amongst golden cornfields is a memory that will never leave me. I suppose that compared to 69 tail-end-charlie missions over occupied Europe, lending your Aston Martin to a mad 18 year old wasn't scary at all. Per Ardua Ad Astra.

In reply to sarah79:

For maximum fun and life expectancy in a rear-engined car, familiarise yourself with Newton's laws of Conservation of Momentum and always remember where the weight is, and where it isn't.

In reply to quadmyre: Personally it would have to be a porsche boxter. After all its a car that makes women weep and elastic snap! Hopefully if I get one I will move to Glasgow!

In reply to grumpybearpantsclimbinggoat:

This reminds me of a conversation I heard at the Pinewood bar, years ago in the early 80s ... when the whole studio car park seemed to be filled with Porsches. "Stuart, why haven't you got a decent car like a Porsche, rather than that clapped out old Volkswagen? – You know, something really nice to look at?" "Because I'm much happier looking at my bank balance!" The said Stuart was one of the top movie editors then, and has since become a James Bond director.

In reply to quadmyre:

Such an easy question!

Lancia Beta Montecarlo
Porsche 928 (manual)
GT6 (track day car - de-bumpered and de-seamed)
TR8
Alfetta GTV6 (the wedgy 1970's one)
BMW 6 series (the first time round)

It's nice to dream

In reply to mattknight:

ooo and an Aston Vantage like the one in 'the living daylights'

In reply to eschaton:

I prefer the new Nemesis myself.

Although a race-prepared VW Tuareg diesel... nice.

In reply to quadmyre:

I'd like a Ur Quattro

Aston Martin V8

Amphicar

Ferarri 328 GTB

Wilys Jeep

Alfa Romeo SZ

In reply to quadmyre:
For mad fun: a Kamaz.

For even madder fun: a hagglunds

In reply to Gordon Stainforth:

Second Unit director surely, if you mean Stuart Baird. Nobody called Stuart has had their name listed as main director of a Bond film
Admittedly on Bond films the second unit director does do all the real direction (as confessed by Michael Apted )

I like Baird. I think his only nominal directorial offerings have been Executive Decision (which was a wonderful hoot) and possibly US Marshalls? He went back to editing and unit work after US Marshalls tanked, and seems to remain in very gainful employment.
<checks - God I'm good, yes it WAS US Marshalls, I've never even seen it, how can I remember who directed it?! He also did Star Trek Nemesis after that, I didn't know that>


Hang about, his only listed Bond work is as editor on Casino Royale, not even any second unit on any of them. Maybe you mean a different Stuart? Or he's done uncredited directorial work on them?

In reply to almost sane:

????

So many good choices on this thread but baffled by that one. Why??

In reply to quadmyre: mmm Lamborghini Murcielago LP 670

http://www.lamborghini.com/2006/lamboSitenormal.asp?lang=eng

When I win the lottery!

In reply to Blue Straggler:

No, sorry, he was an editor then. Had not graduated to Second Unit Director. He cut a lot of rather major movies around then, I think. Will have to do a Google.

In reply to Blue Straggler:

OK, this is straight out of Wikipedia. He was just as big as I thought:

Superman in 1978, he was nominated for the Academy Award for Film Editing. He received another nomination for editing Gorillas in the Mist (1988). Prior to his working relationship with Richard Donner, Baird worked as assistant director and assistant editor on different projects before editing Ken Russell's Tommy. Baird worked with Russell on five major motion pictures. He edited Tommy, Lisztomania, and Valentino and served as associate producer on Ken Russell's Altered States. He also worked as assistant editor on Russell's The Devils, (1971).
After his Oscar-nominated work on Gorillas in the Mist in 1988 and his work with Richard Donner on Lethal Weapon 2, he accepted a position as full-time staff editor at Warner Bros. in 1989. With Warner Bros. He supervised the editing on such films as Die Hard 2: Die Harder (1990) and Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves (1991).

I think he might have been the chief Editor on Revolution, that no one ever mentions because it was such financial disaster.

You've just got to imagine just what a small world the film industry - at the top - was then, the main editors, who all knew each other extremely well, being: Dede Allen, Ann Coates, Stuart Baird and Ray Lovejoy. Of course i must have missed out quite a few others, but those were the really big names, and I was fortunate enough to end up working with Ray Lovejoy.

In reply to Tall Clare:

We're going to the Nurburgring this year. Eek!

In reply to quadmyre:

PS. Apologies for that absolutely appalling hi-jack/side track (completely forgot what the thread had originally been about .. was just answering BS's questions ..)

In reply to sarah79:

my brother's clocked up a stupid amount of laps there (mostly in his caterham rather than the ill-fated porsche)- if you want any tips/suggestions/recommendations I'm sure he'd be happy to witter on...

In reply to quadmyre: Affordable classics:
Pug 205 GTi 1.9
Pug 306 16v
Astra 2.0 16v
Lancia Thema 8.32
Lancia Delta Integrale (last edition)
BMW M5 mk1 (probably the best Q-car ever)

Andy F

In reply to mattknight:

Good choice!
Superb choice. Really must fix mine

jk

In reply to chris j:


Baja surely
jk

In reply to jkarran:


from the left side, a Jowett Javelin

In reply to John Rushby:

Jupiter surely, old boy.

In reply to tom valentine:

Tasty! Both are nice cars!

In reply to jkarran:

If you want to sell the 6 series...

In reply to tom valentine:

They are nice and you know your cars, but I love the JAav , and my old man used to build them so I like the Bradford link.

In reply to mattknight:

It needs a patch in every panel unfortunately. Also it's begging for a bigger/better powerplant Work I could do if I had space. It's brilliant to drive*, every journey is an occasion!

*long distance in the wet being the exception. Lethal!

jk

In reply to jkarran:

Sounds like a cracking project. I don't have entirely good taste, have an odd yearning for one of these or a princess:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNCAcKybSfE&feature=related

(I know it's wrong but I just can't help myself)

In reply to John Rushby:
i looked under the bonnet of a Jupiter at a show once. I could not see the cylinder block at all, it was so low slung.
If the Japs and Germans think they know a bit about the siting of a boxer engine, let them look at a Jupiter.

In reply to tom valentine:

Aye, cracking car that.

As for Japs, the boxer was courtesy of the pasta heads.

As an AlfistaI am of course, biaised


Want to buy a Duetto :P

In reply to John Rushby: I guess I could manage with a Brabus CLS

In reply to quadmyre:

I am generally not a fan of German cars two that I would love, one of which I could never afford in a million years are:

Porsche 356 and Mercedes-Benz 300SL (Gullwing).

In reply to quadmyre:

I do enjoy getting my hands on the keys of my friend's Impreza - STi engine tuned and tweaked to 380bhp, ceramic clutch, can't remember the list of upgrades, but it's about group N rally spec if it had a roll cage.

Engine management has 2 maps - 1 for (snort) "economical" daily driving and another one for more "spirited" driving and track days (in which mode it will, I'm told, spin all 4 wheels in 3rd). Of all the cars I've ever driven, it's the one that slams you back in the seat the most.

The only things that keep me from seriously mis-behaving in it are it's not mine and it's left hand drive, so I have to concentrate a bit more.

In reply to quadmyre:

Is your name Geoffrey or Jeffrey and do you read GQ?

In reply to quadmyre:

Any Formula 1 car would be great to own before I crash and die on the first bend......

In reply to quadmyre:

This thread makes me wonder what is more important to people in their dream car, is it beauty (it is for me) or is it performance.

Quite a few people have said a Scooby Doo, I think I would rather have the pox.

In reply to quadmyre:

Just added one - G4 Disco.

In reply to The New NickB:

Both. Ferrari 250 SWB (as I said earlier).

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/00839/motoring-graphi...

In reply to graeme jackson:

A thing of beauty, cars with better performance are available.

So not really both.

In reply to The New NickB:

It'll out perform any other car I'm ever likely to own so from that perspective, definitely both

In reply to The New NickB:


Both. My ambition is a home-build, I can build fast and plain quite easily. The big challenge is fast, functional and beautiful.


I'd be one of those I guess. It was more mentioned in passing since they're good value high performance motors at the moment. Not exactly a long term dream

jk

In reply to Donald M:

Now now, nothing wrong with a classic V12 armchair. Why don't you go pick on the lentil-botherers who keep mentioning 2CV / Dyanes?

In reply to quadmyre:

Just the one I have now, if it never broke down and lasted forever I'd be super happy.

I would like to go on a few rally days though.

If we mentioned push bikes however, well.....

Cheers

Toby

In reply to quadmyre:
OK so I mentioned a Dyane in my dream garage, but its stablemate is not the type of car you see outside your average bender.

In reply to whaup:


http://www.pbase.com/exzim/image/85827569

In reply to quadmyre: Triumph TR4a, in midnight blue with cream leather interior and wire wheels.

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://farm1.static.flickr.com/27/483...

PS - I know that one's red!

In reply to Tall Clare:

Woo yay, i now have the above car! I'm very excited!

In reply to quadmyre:

A hearse...I can drive myself then

In reply to Tall Clare:






I quite fancy the new RS but it might be a bit chavy.

In reply to Ian Black:

go ST and get it chipped. Much more classy.

In reply to bouldery bits:






I've driven the standard one and it was OK.