In reply to IainRUK:
A great and legit claim.. Exactly, and when both sides claim ownership who is right? Those with the most money and the biggest guns.
If you want to get into it the UK boundaries are absolutely debatable, hence the first section of the good friday agreement accepting that the border is not permanent and is subject to change when the Irish people as a whole decide.
When the British illegally invaded both Iraq and Afghanistan (having installed and propped up both the governments they subsequently collapsed)they claimed that they were doing 'the right thing'. That's not true. In both cases it has been shown, and this is beyond doubt, that they entered these countries purely for money making schemes, and not in the slightest for the good of the people in that country.
When the british occupied Ireland, murdered a large proportion of its' people, and raped the country of resources they were doing exactly the same thing. That is, they were taking what they wanted and couldn't care less what happened to the people they were affecting.
So what I am trying to say is that the British have, and still do, claim legitimacy in countries where they are not wanted or tolerated. They hold onto this legitimacy until it becomes impossible to do so, e.g. Ireland, India, Africa to name but a few.
If I come to your house, beat the head off you, raped your wife and murdered your children and then called your house mine, would I be right?
No. And this is exactly what England has done in Ireland. Hence the reason I recommended you stop this conversation. You obviously have no shame for what your country has done in the past, and for what it continues to do, e.g. failing to disclose the names of the murderers responsible for bloody sunday, and failing to make them face the criminal proceedings they deserve
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Now can we stop this, there's no point in continuing it..