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Long exposure photos with a film SLR?

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 RyanC 26 Apr 2011
Ive got a 35mm Minolta Dynax 800si and would like to take some long exposure photos (night landscapes, star trails etc). My question is; is there a way to calculate which settings and what sort of shutter speed I would need in order to get the right amount of exposure?
I am a student so don't really want to spend £10+ on a film and development to find out Ive got a reel full of completely black or washed out photos.

Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers
RC
 mr rob 27 Apr 2011
In reply to ryanconroy:

There are simple charts that describe a scene and gives you the exposure details

For example (not real though as i haven't got one handy)

Moon lit night-iso400-40%sky-2hrs

try googling these as a light meter will be out of its depth
 Sean Kelly 27 Apr 2011
In reply to ryanconroy: It also depends on the ASA (ISO) and make of film used. You need to be aware of 'Reciprocity failure' (do a Google search) and there is a calculation that can be used but I no longer have the formula.
If using slide film look here http://photo.net/learn/nature/reciprocity
& for B&W see here http://home.earthlink.net/~kitathome/LunarLight/moonlight_gallery/technique...
sm1thson 28 Apr 2011
In reply to ryanconroy: if your a student for experimental stuff dont spend £10 on film and development, you can get film from the poundshop, or spend a little bit more for something better from 7dayshop/ebay, tesco develop for a pound then scan it at your education establishment. for star shots look on flickr at the exif data of what other people are shooting at (but note if the exif data says 30 seconds and there is a trail it is a series of 30 second shots stacked), also sometimes people state like here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hairy_rob/5523890709/in/photostream

When I started with film I did night shots I used my digital camera on ISO 3200 for one second to take a picture then if this was exposed right I could do say iso100 for 30seconds on my film (and adjust further for difference in aperture) if the test shot was too light or dark i could guess how many times too light or dark it was and adjust accordingly.

With film you can get away with a couple of stops either side on the exposure, so for a 1 minute exposure night scene you will get away with anything from 15 seconds to 4 minutes, so you don’t have to be as precise as you might think, also for star shots this means you will getaway with huge differences in time without much problem with the foreground.

Reciprocity failure is your biggest enemy, but many modern films don’t have that big failure under a few minutes for night scenes, and for star shots it helps not blow out the foreground and the stars are moving anyway so don’t really count in the reciprocity failure.
 sutty 28 Apr 2011
In reply to ryanconroy:

Go to the library, there will be books that tell you all about it. Or you could just google Night time exposures for film.

http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&sa=X&ei=jUm5TY_cL8OYhQeGlMmMDw&v...
Wonko The Sane 28 Apr 2011
In reply to ryanconroy:

Just out of interest, I did some night photography with balck and white and found a long night exposure was an excellent way to capture textures with very good contrast but without the lighting problems you can get in strong light. Depth of field too was fantastic.
paulinfrancis 04 May 2011
I can recommend Fuji Acros 100 if you are interested in a film with low reciprocity failure. It also has very fine grain.

Francis

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