/ No Country For Old Men
Brutal, spare and compelling. A must read if you've not yet.
I've not seen the film either. How's that for being behind time?
Blood Meridian and the Border Trilogy are even better. Particularly the Border Trilogy
McCarthy is excellent. Read "Blood Meridian" if you want brutal though.
I liked the film of NCFOM.
> Read "Blood Meridian" if you want brutal though.
That bit with the eyes...that's all I'm going to say.
The character of Glanton is based on a real person and also makes an appearance in 'Flashman and the Redskins' by George Macdonald Fraser.
Not read the book. Enjoyed the film second time round - didn't understand it first time. (That's not unusual for me - Da Vinci Code took book plus seeing film twice to fathom it out, never have understood what on earth is going on in Tinker Taylor Soldier Spy)
Book excellent, film excellent.
Tommy Lee Jones - Grizzled and bewildered.
Javier Bardem - chilling.
And it's got Kelly McDonald from Trainspotting.
This made me laugh. Not quite sure what a sympathetic Chigurh would have looked like?
Well I for one was totally invested in Llewelyn Moss' survival. He deserved it. But that's not how it works in a McCarthy novel.
Probably even more terrifying
You might want to delete that!
> You might want to delete that!
1.) Read the book.
2.) Watch the film again. then tell me a more tension-loaded scene than the one in the shop.
3.)OK you've got me: which single event do you find incredible?
Both the book and the film left me stunned; thinking WTF.... in a good way!
Well, there are spoilers on the thread already, so a couple more won't hurt it guess...
The chirurrgh character was entirely unbelievable, more like an unkillable supervillain than a real person
Which would be fair enough, but when the film appears to be about the banality and iniquity of evil and the impotence of tommy lee Jones in the face of that, having an antagonist who would be more at home in the dark knight kind of undermined the films message to me,
Not a bad film, but less than the sum
... Of its parts, in my opinion
(Damn Android phones...!)
Ps should say ubiquity not iniquity...
> Which would be fair enough, but when the film appears to be about the banality and iniquity of evil and the impotence of tommy lee Jones in the face of that, having an antagonist who would be more at home in the dark knight kind of undermined the films message to me,
Like most Cormac McCarthy stuff you can understand it or read it in different ways. Everyone was impotent in the face of Chiririrughg. Some think he represents death. Modern, mechanised, mass death - he uses a bolt gun rather than a scythe - but death nonetheless. You can't escape him and despite what all the characters think you can't outsmart him or kill him. But, intersetingly, right there at the end, we see he can be wounded. Go figure.
Of course, you can just see him as a human bean in which case it's a kind of dark joke. He's the ultimate anti-hero. Think about all the characters he chews through: the lone cowboy, the grizzled old sheriff, the innocent young girl, as well as all the others. He lines up the archetypes (and peoples expectations) then casually swats them aside. If you root for Chighgigighgur the book's quite enjoyable.
interesting, chirurururughhh as any allegory for death was something i hadnt considered,
makes more sense in a way than him being a literal supervillain,
> interesting, chirurururughhh as any allegory for death was something i hadnt considered,
> makes more sense in a way than him being a literal supervillain,
But this is the way McCarthy writes. Read "The Road",it is not about two people pushing a shopping trolly through a desert.
I've read it. It is.
Heard the book is great, so I'll have to try and get a copy.
It's all plagiarised from the 1973 film "Charley Varrick" with just a couple of minor changes
Thought it wouldn't be long........
What did she mean by "fraud"?
Frankly every post I've seen you make has increased my respect for your wisdom and I shall be ordering my copy from Amazon directly!
Sensible girl. It's a pity more UCKers are not like you, Num Num constantly beavers away at educating folk nonetheless.
Num Num is very confident that you will enjoy it. If you don't, I will raid Mrs. Num Num's purse and refund your £2.75.
What if one doesn't like brutal, spare and compelling psychopath stories?
> What did she mean by "fraud"?
A potboiler writer who was getting taken seriously, I think. I could see what she meant sometimes in all that terse drama.
In that case, I can recommend 'The Darling Buds of May' H.E. Bates
> A potboiler writer who was getting taken seriously, I think. I could see what she meant sometimes in all that terse drama.
I could see how some might think like that but I don't see it. The border trilogy is an exceptional piece of work, both collectively and in the individual books.
> Brutal, spare and compelling. A must read if you've not yet.
> I've not seen the film either. How's that for being behind time?
Enjoyed the film and the book. I'd have to put Chigurh down as one of the great movie bad-guys. The scene in the gas station is amazing.
> In that case, I can recommend 'The Darling Buds of May' H.E. Bates
Now you're talking - just about my favourite novelist!
> I could see how some might think like that but I don't see it. The border trilogy is an exceptional piece of work, both collectively and in the individual books.
You may start yes. But don't get into trouble with your mates. And remember to let Num Num know if you do/don't enjoy it.
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