In reply to lm610:
> I feel as stated earlier if it must be done maybe splitting into the smaller groups you mentioned and sending each group to different buttress's, or give each group skill level based tick lists, this would ensure routes are not over trodden on the day and that the group is spread out evenly. just a suggestion mind you. It wont bother myself too much I'll be climbing on the 23rd.
Do people really think these suggestions aren't already in place? For 10 years MUMC has run this trip at this venue and had no problems. Leaders are fully aware of how best to approach the day.
You will find groups of 5 spread from one end of the crag to the other.
There is no queueing for routes behind another group
There are no in-situ top ropes
Groups are organised according to experience and appropriate routes chosen
At least one person walks the entire length of the crag at the end of the trip clearing up any rubbish (I did this for 2 years in a row and not once did I pick up any recently left rubbish, it was all old)
Any other climbers present are given priority choice of routes
Aside from the heightened friendliness and clear organisation at the crag you can't tell the difference between this and any other busy day at Froggatt
Not one person in the thread who has seen this trip in action has raised any objections as they understand how much time and effort goes into its planning. That planning involves far more than a couple of sentences on an internet forum.