In reply to birdie num num:
> (In reply to Goucho)
> Hardened criminals have no fear of the police or the courts, crime will always be a gamble that they are prepared to take. Generally , folk who get SP30s have been less attentive to their speedometers than they have to the road ahead, increase the penalty and the reverse will be true.
> If prison were a really shit experience for all who were detained, it might possibly deter a few, at the moment, it appears to be fairly comfortable provided that you're not bothered about going out.
I've always felt that loss of freedon is punishment enough for most. Of course, some are institutionalised, but should we really make prison as unpleasant as possible just so these people also feel punished?
I just can't get behind the idea of what to me amounts to mental torture of people who, whilst not excusing them in any way, are often people who have fallen through the gaps in society from a young age.
I also think that where possible prison should be abour real rehabilitation. You don't rehabilitate by demeaning a person you do it by encouraging them to see their own potential.
Yes, it will mean that many in the system will take the piss out of it and that may annoy you. It does me too........... but I feel you have to be pragmatic about these things.
I am not after a softly softly approach, but an effective one.
In the case of this chap who killed these two police officers....... there's almost certainly no hope for someone like this and I think he should be locked up for life and never get out. But I don't wish to see him treated inhumanely. What would be the point of that??? I doubt he'd learn a thing and I certainly wouldn't take any pleasure from it.