/ 1st time winter climber - Scotland here i come!
Just bought a rake of new climbing gear from an american company to try winter climbing out!
Ice screws (5 of!)
thinking starting around grade IV/V ish?
any advice or climbing partner welcome!
If you think their climbing gear is crap you should see their nuclear power stations.
Nice to see your enthusiasm though! ;-)
Try harder next time
Those crampons appear to be footfangs.
I still have an original pair and they are actually quite good, apart from when walking down steep snow slopes:
Looks like top notch quality kit. What limit your sights at IV/V - with this sort of gear I'd have thought VI/VII would be more realistic? Argue for your limitations and they are yours. Oh what the heck - go for XI. Must be safe - loads of gear.
What a miserable lot you all are.
The guy was looking for a climbing partner for his Scottish adventure, as well as advice - not one of you has rushed forward to partner him.....
I've got a pair of instep crampons and a walking axe for use on these Grade Xls. Unfortunately I shall be otherwise engaged or I'd have shown him the way.
The wind up to winter is when this forum comes alive though :):)
This is going to be my first winter too. These seem like very good deals, could I really get up to those grades?
still looking for a partner
Just take it easy with the grades and have fun safely mate!
They're not for rocks!
1/10 for the troll, but...
Given that the crampons look like Footfangs without the plate, the axes appear to be on a par (if not better than)Teradactyls and the ice screws are similar to stuff around in the early 1980's you'll be fine on V/VI on the Ben.
Looks no worse than stuff I was using then.
the axes don't have teeth they will just slip out of water ice.
They also sell these
The original Clog Vultures didn't have any teeth to speak of, and they worked.
I'm with Ghastly Rubberfeet: this gear looks better than stuff we all used to use!
I once filed down the teeth on one of my quarks a bit too much and it was ghastly on water ice, kept popping out of the placements!
tbh the vultures look a lot nicer and do have some teeth
The front of the pick inclines too so is a kind of tooth.
you should get in touch with DJ Viper and Mountain Spirit you guys would make an unstoppable team.
That's a nice website which I was unaware of - so thanks. I have just been nostalgically looking at pictures of gear, some of which I still use!
Yes, it depends on the angle of the pick. The Vultures are so steeply drooped that they can't simply be swung at hard water ice: they need a kind of downwards flick at the end of the swing. But the steep angle means that that they are then naturally hooked in. The tools in this thread probably work the same way.
My mountaineering axe (the grivel evo) has a pick a bit like that, although less so. I was suprised how well it works in ice.
Anyway, look, I've not tried winter climbing yet either but I am ridiculously keen. Having said that I also don't know where best to start. I have some details of a few guides that I was planning to call on to get some training before heading out on my own.... Would you be keen to join?
Having said that, I would also be happy to entertain just going out and trying it post having a good old chat to see if it would work.
I'm currently based in London but have a camper van so will travel to Scotland once conditions are good.
Get in touch if you like
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