/ head torches for fell running
can anyone recommend any?
Gets asked a lot :-)
Hope Vision 2 is pretty popular amongst the fell running community.
Here's a link to the FRA equipment forum where there are a couple of threads about headtorches http://forum.fellrunner.org.uk/forumdisplay.php?6-Equipment
I suspect you'll end up wanting something like a Hope Vision R4.
I got a cheapo Cree XML T6 off ebay recently:
First impressions are that it's a good torch, friends ones seem to give about 7 hours on low which is plenty light enough to descend off Higgar and Carl Wark on full gas. Headband isn't the comfiest, and there may be reliability issues in the future but at that price I'm not too bothered.
Re fell running with it, the batteries are in a case at the back of the head but the front light is extremely light weight and tilts to three different positions. However I have never run whilst wearing it, so cannot advise if it's comfortable for long runs.
Gamma here, great value but holds me back when it gets technical or my eyes start getting tired. Vaguely looking for something else.
This isn't a bad offer if you like the magazine:
I have a FENIX HP11 which gives 4 hours of 277 lumens for £55 and it's built like a tank. It will last much longer on the lower settings which are plenty for normal running. I use the spot light for night orienteering and looking for path turnings and features from a distance mostly.
Turns night nav into day nav!
It's on the heavy side but doesn't feel it when it's on your head. It runs off 4 AAs which sit in a battery pack on the back. It got me through two nights of the Lakeland 100.
I also find the different profile activities you can set up on it for different activities a great function as I use it for more then just running.
I am not a fan of this lighting arms race we seem to have in relation to prancing around the fells at night. Nobody needs a light of more than 200 lumens for fell running, they can probably get by with a lot less.
I have got a Silva X Trail which is has about the same output as the Myo XP, possibly slightly brighter, but have happily used the Gamma in the past.
sten light, its awesome
thanks all - plenty to look at there
i've got a hope 2 for biking but don't like having the lead flapping about while running so i'd prefer something with a smaller battery pack that's on the head strap somehow
> I am not a fan of this lighting arms race we seem to have in relation to prancing around the fells at night. Nobody needs a light of more than 200 lumens for fell running, they can probably get by with a lot less.
If you want to go for a steady run on trails then yes, you're probably right, and it do a good job.
If you are wanting to run, navigate well and descend fast on off-trail ground then I think the new high-power headtorches make a huge difference. I don't think you could descend rough ground with a 200 lumen torch as fast as you could in daylight, but with some of these torches you can.
That's not what everyone wants to do of course, but I think you'll have a job convincing night-orienteers do ditch their expensive Silva torches for a 200 lumen one!
the petzl nao advert linked above only showed people on nice even trails running in twilight so i'm not convinced by it yet. sounds like a really nice idea but does it really do what it says?
i would definitely want to be running on steep uneven footpaths so would need more than 200 lumens.
I think you are wrong. I will be out tonight, rough moorland, steep descents, mud. I am not talking about nice even trails.
I get by on local trails (Sheffield Porter-Clough) with a Petzl Zipka, super-lite and sufficient light; sometimes I'd appreciate being able to control the beam angle. I have a Myo XP for more demanding terrain and don't see why you'd need more.
So many runners and especially bikers seem to have super-powerful lights these days, I am getting regularly dazzled by what look like oncoming cars, I think it's OTT most of the time and anti-social...
But also I think having a huge head torch takes away something which is special about night running.. that limited view.. quick feet, I don't know there is something special for me..
I used to think that if it could be restricted to head-mounted only (i.e. battery pack on head as well) then that would be ok, but with the LED headtorches from the last few years, that would have little effect.
Well said, I agree. The less the light, the more connected you are with your environment; better than existing in a flood-lit bubble.
Over 10/ 20 minutes your night vision develops if no light.
But no-one should go out and break a leg on that basis!
I have a Hope Vision One, which isn't cheap but is stunningly bright. That's more of a bike light for me however.
But I mainly use a AlpKit Gamma, has lasted well and is plenty bright for £12.50. 88 lumens I think.
If you're running with other people I actually think it's a bit antisocial to have a ridiculously powerful headtorch as the extra glare diminishes the apparent brightness of everyone else's modest torches. However if you're mates all have some 900 lumen monstrosities you're pretty screwed, as anything else less will seem like candle light. Running alone I would never want for anything brighter than a Petzl Myo XP to illuminate my footing. If you need something to route find with take a second powerful torch with a narrow beam that you can use sparingly and keep well away from your eyes so you're not blinded by glare from your own breath.
Failing this, I would recommend buying a full moon and gluing it to a clear sky.
sure i love being connected to the environment etc etc, but not to the point where i've just sprained my ankle on rough ground miles from home on a dark cold night.
there are questions of context - i have other head torches that are perfectly good for running on a predictable surface like a road or a smooth grassy surface, but i want something that will enable me to run on rougher/more uneven terrain safely
> sure i love being connected to the environment etc etc, but not to the point where i've just sprained my ankle on rough ground miles from home on a dark cold night.
> there are questions of context - i have other head torches that are perfectly good for running on a predictable surface like a road or a smooth grassy surface, but i want something that will enable me to run on rougher/more uneven terrain safely
Yes, 200 lumens is fine for even the roughest of fell terrain. One thing to remember with torches is that however powerful it isn't natural light and can create strange shadows and also change the appearance of the ground. Super bright lights can flatten out bumps, also getting dazzled by your mate turning around, or even sometimes just picking up the reflection of something is bad enough with sub 200 lumen lights.
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