/ CWA: is it valid in Europe???

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MONONOKE - on 24 Oct 2012
Hello Folks!

Does anyone know if the Climbing Wall Award is a valid qualification in Europe or just a national qualification, therefore valid only throughout the UK?

Thanks for your help!
Scott_vzr on 24 Oct 2012
In reply to MONONOKE: You should post this on the MTA forum as it has experts on hand to answer questions - my gut feeling is NO.
MONONOKE - on 24 Oct 2012
In reply to Scott_vzr: Thanks for your quick response! I've just sent out an email to one of the Technical Officer at MTUK. I've got the feeling the answer is no too, but I'm not 100% sure so better to ask ;)
Scott_vzr on 26 Oct 2012
In reply to MONONOKE: There was a post on the MTA forum last week about equivalences, with French quals.

JIB - on 28 Oct 2012
In reply to MONONOKE: There are two aspects to your question.

1. Is the qualification a European qualification or a UK qualification? (From The CWA course details, 'Remit':- 'It is valid throughout the UK.')
2. Is it possible to use a UK qualification in Europe?


When you describe Europe, I understand that you are talking about the EU countries; I would suggest that you look at the EU laws which harmonise working practices and qualifications within the European Union. My understanding - which may be incorrect - is that individual countries still retain the rights to insist on minimum standards for professions, which is how the French employ the process of 'Equivalence' to ensure that all who seek to work in France are appropriately qualified and experienced.

Perhaps the best UK contact, would be Steve Long (via Siabod Cottage) who is the Chair of the UIAA Training Standards group.

In terms of general comments, which have held true for a number of countries and colleagues who have applied to work in them using their UK qualifications:-
1. Does your intended country operate a similar qualification?
2. Is the profession of instructor regulated, and by whom?
3. Is the country a member of the UIAA? (See note about Steve Long, above)

In terms of general principles, at the very least, I would expect them to compare the CWA syllabus (translated at your cost) with their own nearest compatible qualification (which you would reasonably identify for them), and you would probably need to demonstrate other specific competences (language skills, knowledge of particular features of that country's working practices, etc) to satisfy their awarding body.
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MONONOKE - on 29 Oct 2012
In reply to JIB:
Thank you very much for your reply!

I have contacted Steve Long. Basically, within the UIAA, they have developed training standards for volunteer leaders and instructors. Qualifications that meet these standards are recognised by other federations as suitable for volunteers and may in some circumstances be used for paid work.

However this is all subject to local law and practice and only the UK's MIA has been accredited as a rock climbing instructor qualification by the UIAA.

So, as you said, the best thing would be to contact the local organisation of my destination country.

In terms of general principles, all experience and training is transferable to an extent, in that it helps develop judgement and competence.

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