/ Recognition for Michael Forbes (You've Been Trumped)

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Douglas Griffin - on 30 Nov 2012
Michal Forbes has been voted Top Scot in the annual Glenfiddich 'Spirit of Scotland' awards. One in the eye for Trump.

Good to see Julie Fowlis picking up the music award too.

http://www.scotsman.com/news/scottish-news/top-stories/farmer-who-took-on-trump-triumphs-in-spirit-a...
Douglas Griffin - on 03 Dec 2012
In reply to Douglas Griffin:

There seems to have been no mention at all of this in the Press and Journal, a newspaper which would not normally be slow to publicise a national award to a person from the north-east.
(It made the New York Times though:
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/03/trump-takes-on-a-farmer-and-the-farmer-wins/ .) The editors of the P&J must have been hoping no-one would notice. This is the same newspaper that recently carried the story that Trump is going ahead with plans for a second course (repeating Trump's vastly-inflated claim about how much money he has invested), while keeping quiet about the decision to shut down the first one for the winter.

It's been thoroughly depressing to see the way that local politicians, the press and even the police have connived with Trump throughout the whole affair.
tony on 03 Dec 2012
In reply to Douglas Griffin:
I don't keep up with the the P&J. Have they had anything to say about the second course being taken forward despite the offshore windfarm that Trump claims will lead to the end of the world?

It does seem astonishing that he has managed to silence every critical element of officialdom. I suspect 'You've been Trumped' isn't the last chapter in the story.
Douglas Griffin - on 03 Dec 2012
In reply to tony:

From what I've seen they've been very quick to promote the Trump line re. the second golf course as well. They quoted him as saying that course #2 would go ahead because the proposed offshore wind development was "dead in the water", which was news to quite a few people.
tony on 03 Dec 2012
In reply to Douglas Griffin:

I've just had a look at the course website. For "The World's Best Course" it's quite a duff website. Here's hoping some decent winter storms rearrange some of the fairways and greens.
Douglas Griffin - on 04 Dec 2012
In reply to tony:

News of Mr Forbes' success has clearly reached Trump Towers.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

"Michael Forbes lives in a pigsty and bad liquor company Glenfiddich gave him Scot of the Year award over Andy Murray, the US Open winner. Does anyone smell publicity stunt?"
"Michael Forbes is a loser who failed to stop what was just named “the golf course of the year” and which has brought lots of tourism & jobs to Scotland—Scots must be very embarrassed?"

Eric9Points - on 04 Dec 2012
In reply to Douglas Griffin:

What a poisonous character he is.

Re the arse licking politicians, I hope that they're attitude to Trump is remembered the next time the council elections come round.

MG - on 04 Dec 2012
In reply to Eric9Points: Some of the responses to his tweets are quite good

' But in the end she's[sic] not an adult who uses twitter like a pre-teen to call people names.'
Nevis-the-cat - on 04 Dec 2012
In reply to Douglas Griffin:

Trump wont bring money to the area - to do that he has to pay his contractors.

His preferred method is to keep them waiting for payment then liquidate his development company.

Nevis-the-cat - on 04 Dec 2012
In reply to Douglas Griffin:

That'll be the bad liquor company that turned over £1bn in 2012, made profits in excess of £110m and brings a lot more jobs and cash into the Scottish economy than that pudgy fingered comber over fud.

I think Donald Fart may meet his match if William Grants decide they want to play hard ball.
Martin W on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to Nevis-the-cat: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/dec/05/donald-trump-whisky-award Good grief. I thought people like Trump employed PR consultants to stop them revealing what utter twunts they are? Looks like he's not paying them enough.
MG - on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to Martin W:
> (In reply to Nevis-the-cat) http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/dec/05/donald-trump-whisky-award Good grief. I thought people like Trump employed PR consultants to stop them revealing what utter twunts they are?

His comments in that article make him look unhinged. Surely it must be an act? You can't really run a large business while being so irrational....can you?

ring ouzel on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to MG: Drinks firm threatened by the DT('s). I think they'll cope.
Darren Jackson - on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to Douglas Griffin:

Surely Michael Forbes ought to stand for the local council?... Or, better yet, as a local MP?
Darren Jackson - on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to Douglas Griffin:

P.S. Is it too late to nominate him for Sports Personality of the Year?...

Could he be persuaded to release a Christmas song? A cover of I Fought the Law, or similar?
Douglas Griffin - on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to ring ouzel:

Once again, just when you think the man can't stoop any lower, he suddenly does.

I guess when you're used being able to buy people's opinion (the way he has with the Aberdeen Press & Journal), it must be hard to take a result like this.

What'll it be next? He didn't like the popular vote for Obama and he called for a march on the Whitehouse. He didn't like the popular vote for Mr Forbes. Should the good people of Dufftown be worried?

And as for this:
"Trump claimed that William Grant & Sons, which broke through the £1bn sales barrier this year and owns several of the world's most popular whiskies, including Grant's, was jealous of his own inhouse single malt whisky brand."
Must admit, I've never heard of this inhouse single malt whisky of his. Never tasted it - never will.
ring ouzel on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to Douglas Griffin: Jaw droppingly huge ego that man has!
Alan Taylor - on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to Darren Jackson: I would absolutely vote for him over lying Salmond
tony on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to Douglas Griffin:

Grant's make or own, amongst others, Glenfiddich. Highland Park. The Macallan, Famous Grouse and Balvenie, so I'd guess the bar staff will have to get used to saying 'no' when they're asked for any of these.
Toby S - on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to ring ouzel:

He's a complete f*cking c'nt. And I do not use that word lightly.

Darren Jackson - on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to Toby S:

Now, now... Don't you think that you're maybe being a bit harsh on c@*ts in making that comparison?
Toby S - on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to Douglas Griffin:

Interesting that he's happy enough banging on about how he's all about boosting tourism figures and creating jobs. Then on the other hand demands a boycott of one of our main exports and something that helps generate a significant amount of tourist revenue.

I'm away to buy a few bottles of Glenfiddich.
Toby S - on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to Darren Jackson:

As ever you are wise beyond your many, many, many, many years.

I apologies to all cants.
Douglas Griffin - on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to Toby S:

33 minutes ago:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump
"We are getting rid of all Glenfiddich garbage alcohol from Trump properties."
Douglas Griffin - on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to Toby S:

Check this, just spotted it on Twitter:
http://ow.ly/i/1cSU5
tony on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to Douglas Griffin:
> "We are getting rid of all Glenfiddich garbage alcohol from Trump properties."

Funny - it was good enough before Michael Forbes won the award, now it's garbage!
Dauphin - on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to Douglas Griffin:

WTF does anyone do business/f*ck a petty minded little K**t like that? Clearly come overs and billions in the bank are a massive turn on.

D
Douglas Griffin - on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to Dauphin:

That's another thoroughly depressing aspect to the whole affair. Surely everyone can see the true character of the man - and yet he still gets treated like royalty every time his plane touches down at Aberdeen Airport. I'd like to think that this latest business with Wm. Grant & Sons might result in a change in the way he's received here, but I don't hold out much hope of that happening.

Be interesting too to see how the P&J handles this tomorrow. They might finally have to acknowledge that Michael Forbes won the Top Scot award.
Alan Taylor - on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to Douglas Griffin:


> Be interesting too to see how the P&J handles this tomorrow. They might finally have to acknowledge that Michael Forbes won the Top Scot award.

That will never happen they are so far up Trump and Salmond's backside it is beyond belief
Martin W on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to Douglas Griffin:

> He didn't like the popular vote for Obama and he called for a march on the Whitehouse. He didn't like the popular vote for Mr Forbes.

He doesn't really seem to have much of a grasp on the concept of 'voting', does he? (The concept of 'reality' seems a little out of his reach at times, as well.)

> I've never heard of this inhouse single malt whisky of his. Never tasted it - never will.

I think 'in house' means it's served in his "resorts" (which are in fact casinos, mostly). I imagine that means most people with any kind of good sense or refined taste will have few if any opportunities to sample it. If you listen carefully, I'm sure you can hear them all cursing their misfortune.

In reply to tony:

> Grant's make or own, amongst others ... Highland Park.

Oh good, I have a bottle of that on the go at home at the moment. I shall happily stick two fingers up at Donald-where's-your-hairpiece as I enjoy my wee dram tonight.
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Douglas Griffin - on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to Douglas Griffin:

> There seems to have been no mention at all of this in the Press and Journal, a newspaper which would not normally be slow to publicise a national award to a person from the north-east.

I've just been informed by David Milne (Forbes' neighbout at Menie) that they did in fact publish details of Forbes' Top Scot award. 2 column inches, on page 18, 2 days after the event.
Dauphin - on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to Douglas Griffin:

I'm savoring a large vintage Balvenie.

P&J was always a anodyne and introspective local rag.

D
Douglas Griffin - on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to Alan Taylor:

> That will never happen they are so far up Trump and Salmond's backside it is beyond belief

Can't say I've ever seen the P&J as being pro-Salmond except when Salmond's position has been aligned with Trump's, as in the original decision to call in the planning pemission application for Golf Course #1.

Whose side has the P&J taken in the Trump/Salmond dispute over the offshore windfarm?
Douglas Griffin - on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to Dauphin:

> WTF does anyone do business/f*ck a petty minded little K**t like that?

Donald Trump is still a 'Global Scot'.
http://www.andywightman.com/?cat=35

Background here. He was invited to become a Global Scot by then-First Minister Jack McConnell in 2006.
http://www.andywightman.com/?cat=35&paged=3
tony on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to Douglas Griffin:
> (In reply to Douglas Griffin)
>
> [...]
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> I've just been informed by David Milne (Forbes' neighbout at Menie) that they did in fact publish details of Forbes' Top Scot award. 2 column inches, on page 18, 2 days after the event.

Keeping it well hidden - you can't find it on the website.
Alan Taylor - on 05 Dec 2012
Mike C on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to Alan Taylor:
Signed it, though I doubt it will make a difference.
Darren Jackson - on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to Mike C:

I signed it too. It probably won't make a blind bit of difference, but it's always nice to vent a bit of spleen.
Eric9Points - on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to Alan Taylor:

Done.

I just wanted him to know I think he's an arse.
MG - on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to Alan Taylor: Done. Is there something more substantial that can be done? Legal ideas?
Darren Jackson - on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to Eric9Points:
>
> I just wanted him to know I think he's an arse.

Join the queue ;-)
yer maw on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to Douglas Griffin: as much as trump isn't a nice person and Forbes stood up against him, I'm not convinced it is enough to make Forbes Scot of the year.
Cuthbert on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to yer maw:

Agreed but these awards are fairly meaningless. There are plenty people who have given selflessly for many years, quietly supporting and campaigning.
craigloon - on 05 Dec 2012
In reply to tony:
> (In reply to Douglas Griffin)
>
> Grant's make or own, amongst others, Glenfiddich. Highland Park. The Macallan, Famous Grouse and Balvenie, so I'd guess the bar staff will have to get used to saying 'no' when they're asked for any of these.

Highland Park and The Macallan are owned by Edrington. Not sure who own Famous Grouse, but it's not Wm. Grant & Sons.

Glenfiddich 8 yr old is a terrible malt, but the Balvenie is rather good, so I'll forgive them.

And Trump is a cnut.
dissonance - on 06 Dec 2012
In reply to MG:

> His comments in that article make him look unhinged. Surely it must be an act?

its certainly a consistent act judging from his rants about Obama as well.

tony on 06 Dec 2012
In reply to craigloon:

You're right - I took my original info from Wikipedia but either they've got it wrong or I misread it. Apologies to anyone misled.

You're also right about Trump - he is a ncut.

Signed the petition. Maybe we should bring it to the attention of Alec Salmond.
Toby S - on 06 Dec 2012
In reply to Douglas Griffin:
> (In reply to Toby S)
>
> Check this, just spotted it on Twitter:
> http://ow.ly/i/1cSU5

Office is now in tears of laughter! That's unintentionally brilliant :-D
Douglas Griffin - on 06 Dec 2012
In reply to tony:

Just had a quick look at today's Press and Journal. No mention anywhere of Trump's decision to boycott Wm. Grant products.
tony on 06 Dec 2012
In reply to Douglas Griffin:

The Scotsman carries the story, complete with a fantastic photo of Trump in full-on mad rant mode. I'd post the URL but it's a bit long. Nice to see one Scottish paper pays attention.
jonny taylor on 06 Dec 2012
In reply to tony:
> I'd post the URL but it's a bit long
Luckily somebody has invented the solution to your problem
http://tinyurl.com/baqjlbr

Great photo.
Douglas Griffin - on 06 Dec 2012
In reply to tony:
> complete with a fantastic photo of Trump in full-on mad rant mode

The thing is, he'd not necessarily ranting there. He actually poses for those type of photos. You could see him doing at one point this in You've Been Trumped - holding the pose for a second or two while the cameras snapped away.
pasbury on 06 Dec 2012
In reply to Douglas Griffin:

I had a look for all his business interests in case I had inadvertently ever given money to the baboons-arse faced bellend.

This from wikipedia makes it clear that his interests are easy to spot: "including Trump Financial (a mortgage firm), Trump Sales and Leasing (residential sales), Trump Entrepreneur Initiative (a business education company),[3] Trump Restaurants (Located in Trump Tower and consisting of Trump Buffet, Trump Catering, Trump Ice Cream Parlor, and Trump Bar), GoTrump[4] (an online travel website), Donald J. Trump Signature Collection (a line of menswear, men's accessories, and watches), SUCCESS by Donald Trump (fragrance),[84] Trump Ice bottled water, Trump Magazine, Trump Golf, Trump Institute, Trump The Game (1989 Board Game), Trump Vodka and Trump Steaks."

Also illustrates the monstrous ego he has:

This sanguine coward, this bed-presser, this horseback-breaker, this huge hill of flesh!
Darren Jackson - on 06 Dec 2012
In reply to pasbury:

Okay, so it's old news, but didn't McConnell display exceptional judgement?

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/News/Releases/2006/05/02081820

Trump declared Globalscot
30/04/2006

Donald Trump today accepted a personal invitation from First Minister Jack McConnell to become a Globalscot.

Mr McConnell said:

"Donald has shown me a real passion for Scotland. He is a globally recognised figure who can help us to promote Scotland. I am delighted that he has taken up my offer. This is a good bit of business for all concerned."

... Promote Scotland, huh?

Mr Trump said:

"As an international businessman I've enjoyed success over the years and I like to think that part of my achievement can be attributed to my Scottish roots...."

"I am also very pleased to have been asked to join the Globalscot network. For a long time I've been aware that Scottish people are fiercely proud of Scotland and that they like to help their fellow countrymen."


... Help your fellow countrymen, huh?
dissonance - on 06 Dec 2012
In reply to pasbury:

> Also illustrates the monstrous ego he has:

i think Glenfiddich should request that an additional category gets added to the list for this year "worse Scot/person with business interests in Scotland" and award it to him.
Padraig on 06 Dec 2012
In reply to Douglas Griffin:

I see Lord Sugar & Trump are having a spat on twitter tonite! PMSL!
Darren Jackson - on 07 Dec 2012
In reply to Padraig:
> (In reply to Douglas Griffin)
>
> I see Lord Sugar & Trump are having a spat on twitter tonite! PMSL!

"You're fired!"

"No! You're fired!"
Martin W on 07 Dec 2012
In reply to Darren Jackson: No, it would be:

Surallan: "You're fired!"

Mr Bottom Burp: "I hereby call for a boycott on buying Amstrad products."

The World: "Do they still make any?"

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