/ Kinder or cloughs condition
I'll hopefully be checking out Crowden, Grindsbrook and maybe Blackden brook tomorow. Red Brook always freezes pretty fast as there never seems to be that much water in it.
I'd say its going to need afew more days.
With the snow forecasted for today and the freezing conditions for the next few days, sunday looks good
I reckon with the low temps and heavy snowfall tonight that tommorrow could see some action, may be the main pitch on Crowden but the water may be too fast to freeze at that height, might be worth a look at Wildboar or Shinning, worth a look at the downfall / redbrook sat / sun but we need sustained low temps to get anywhere near.
Cheers, I'll go and have a have a play around anyway I think.
I went up Crowden Clough from Barber booth,It was about 2 degrees in the valley and felt warm in the sun, lots of snow from about half way up but not much ice. The ice that was there had the look of ice on its way out not in. The scramble to the side was fun, snow plastered rock and turf which required a lot of clearing.
I didn't bother checking out any other Cloughs as in my experience crowden is usualy one of the first to freeze.
The top is heavy going in places and I fell in to drifts up to my crotch a few times, lots of powdery snow being blown about.
Stunning day to be out though, the only other footprints I saw belonged to a hare, top day! But if anybody wants ice to climb I think it may require a good while of freezing temperatures to bring anything in.
Was up there on sat Kinder downfall has been climbed!!! we saw a team on there.The downfall wasn't fully frozen. We did Red Brook more snow than ice but great fun.
It might have been climbed but looked more like a golden shower climb than an ice climb.
Gullies and buttress's looked good though.
yep I wouldn't want to do it yet it was still flowing in the middle.
If people keep going up and kicking the sh1t out of it before it has a chance to freeze properly, it's going to take an awful lot longer!
sorry meant to reply to the earlier post :-)
Fingers crossed for these promised low temps.
It's all going to melt on Friday :(
Here's a couple of pictures from sat
Wilderness gullies looked extremely thin/not in at all looking at it from the main path today. Though i appreciate i didn't get up close so i can't tell for certain. What i can say though is that it didn't look like there was much ice, there is almost no snow to speak of and it was quite warm on the sunny side of the valley with plenty of melting going on. Certainly nothing like the photo on your profile. still time yet maybe?
> If people keep going up and kicking the sh1t out of it before it has a chance to freeze properly, it's going to take an awful lot longer!
Well said. I wish more people took this attitude.
As for the downfall and the cloughs, from the state of them it's going to take quite a lot more freezing for them to come into any decent condition. Whilst I didn't go for a close look there's a lot of free running water as well as some ice forming around it but nothing particularly inspiring. That said the cloughs on the Northern aspects look to be holding some nicely consolidated snow and may provide for an interesting walk on some steeper ground (maybe just grade I?).
We did get one of the national newspaper photographers take a pic of us checking it out, im the one with the santa hat on if it gets in the papers :) NOTE - we did not climb it !!! so no elitist comments please.
Had a wander up redbrook and the last 500m was in good nick,a small consolation and an excuse to get tooled up.
If anyone is going out i would recommend Crwoden Clough etc as from the frost in Hayfield compared to Bakewell it seems far colder on the eastern side of the plateau
Will post some photos later
Bad luck mate, I thought you'd have had a good chance today. I'd still rather have been out with you than at bloody work though!
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