/ The Wheel of Time
Thanks in advance
Im on book 9. Definitely worth a read. Enjoy.
The first three are worth reading, I'm now somewhere through the 4th one!
The women spend all their time moaning about how incompetent men are, and vice versa, and the author seems to enjoy spending endless pages going into microscopic detail about everyone's clothes, and what tea they drink.
In all honesty, I wouldn't bother. There's far better stuff around. Try George RR Martin's 'Song of Ice and Fire', or Joe Abercrombie's 'First Law' trilogy. Life's too short for the Wheel of Time.
I've been there for about 2 years, I tend to pick one book up, start reading it, put it down, start reading it, put it down, start reading another...I usually have about 10 books on the go at once. Works ok if the plots are easy to follow, but the WoT books have got so many different characters that I've found if you put it down for longer than about a minute you forget who's who and where they all are. Think I'm going to have to start no 4 from the beginning again and plough on...
I think I'm probably going to crack on with what I've got and see how it grabs me.
> Thanks in advance
Isn't it still missing an ending?
The last three books (by the new author) pick the pace and the style up again. Much better than the middle few books and I'm enjoying the last one at the minute however I'm not sure I'm still reading the series out of bloody-mindedness :)
Agreed. It's almost worth it to waddle through the shitty books in order to get to read Sanderson's volumes. Almost... TBH better head straight to his Mistborn or Stromlight Archive series.
I got hooked on these about 8 years ago and steamed through all of the ones available at the time, but lost momentum after that and haven't read any that have been published since so would need to re-read them all to finish the series now. I'm not sure I can face it, as the suspense keeps you going the first time around. Saying that though, I'm off work with post viral fatigue and pretty fed up now so it might be a good little project!
No, the final book (book 14!) was released a couple of weeks ago so the series is now finished!
Avoid at all cost. The first one is okay, if just another derivative "ordinary boy becomes hero" tale. The series gets worse, rapidly. I couldn't finish the third one as it was so bad.
I think Wheel of time is the series to which George RR Martin is referring to when he says fantasy got really bad in the 80s and early 90s. Although he is too nice to name the actual author or books.
i think the acronym says it all: TWOT
I didn't find WoT particularly special, although the plot roles along at a reasonable pace, and it is an easy read.
I found that quite a lot of sub-plot is repeated, particularly the way the main characters feel about the opposite sex, and I found this pretty tedious after a while. Can't say I agree about the complexity of the characters - nowhere near as many minor characters as Game of Thrones.
The books do improve again towards the end.
I found The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, The Unbeliever by Stephen Donaldson in a charity shop for a pound the other day, and it is superb. Would definitely recommend this over WoT, and also Joe Abercrombie's First Law trilogy.
Have you read any of the Sword of Truth books? I mentioned to a friend that I might give WoT another shot and they suggested these. I'm stuck in book 2 of Game of Thrones - I got bored part way through. I want to know what happens to some of the characters, but couldn't wade through the rest.
Agree totally regarding Game of Thrones, my climbing partner got into them, but I just can't be arsed to wade through them all either - got to the end of Book 2 and then got diverted by A Confederacy Of Dunces (again such a good book) and some easy to read SciFi by Neal Asher.
I hadn't heard of them until this morning. I'm going to see how far I get re-reading WoT then will give them ago. I got up to book 10 (might have been 11, it was a while ago!) last time mostly while revising for/doing/after 3rd year uni exams so read them one after the other quite quickly (chemistry - I didn't get much sleep but did ok in the exams!). Once I could get the next one it was too long after after reading the others and I couldn't get into it.
> Have you read any of the Sword of Truth books? I mentioned to a friend that I might give WoT another shot and they suggested these. I'm stuck in book 2 of Game of Thrones - I got bored part way through. I want to know what happens to some of the characters, but couldn't wade through the rest.
Sword of truth suffers the same drop off in the middle as WoT including a 700 page diatribe about the author's hate of communism. There's definitely good stuff in there thoug, but avoid at all costs the most recent book which was written after the seties "finished"h. IMO the WoT is better than SoT and SOIAF and the poor middle books are somewhat overstated.
I love the Wheel of Time and just finished the 14th and final novel.
For me, the first 6 books get better and better as they go along. Some of my favourite fantasy books of all. The 7th and 8th get bogged down and a bit slow, the 9th is good, and then the 10th and 11th are terribly slow and basically bad.
At this point the original author, Robert Jordan, unfortunately passed away. However, Brendan Sanderson took over and wrote an excellent finale sequence of three books from Robert Jordan's detailed notes.
I've not read a more densely woven and layered story than the Wheel of Time, and generally think it's rather better written than most fantasy. There are cheesy elements to it for sure, but the scale is properly epic.
I love it, and thoroughly recommend it to fantasy readers.
> I love the Wheel of Time (...) Some of my favourite fantasy books of all. (...) I've not read a more densely woven and layered story than the Wheel of Time,
Oh man, you are in for a treat then. There are some excellent series out there that make WoT read like 'The Very Hungry Caterpillar". ;-)
> Oh man, you are in for a treat then. There are some excellent series out there that make WoT read like 'The Very Hungry Caterpillar". ;-)
Name some please Mr Lopez. I like a treat.
I've been following this list/blog for years and it hasn't failed me http://bestfantasybooks.com/top25-fantasy-books.php so you can do worse than using it for 'inspiration'. I personally share most of the opinions, but obviously different people will have differing tastes.
This here is worth reading as well http://bestfantasybooks.com/worst-fantasy-books.html
The comments section on each book also helps decide what to try and read, but there's wide opinions there due to, i believe, the age/maturity disparity of some of the 'reviewers'...
P.s. Just noticed that WoT gets a mention in both lists
P.P.S. I have loads of the books that feature in that list which are sitting doing nothing in my room.
Noticed you are in London, so if you can collect i'd probably be up for offloading them for a decent price. There's a minimum of 3 years reading all in all. (40 books or thereabouts)
Thanks for that website - gives me some ideas.
As for the book collection - very kind offer but I've got too many books already! Hence mainly reading on my Kindle these days. Will be doing some downloading off that list.
Browsing that top 25 I think it might be a matter of differing taste - I've read many of the books/series in that list eg. Malazan series, Song of Ice & Fire, Gormenghast, Kingkiller Chronicles, LOTR obviously, Farseer Trilogy (I thought quite childish/poorly written), Blade Itself (found quite hackneyed/childishly written), Gentleman Bastards series, Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell, Thomas Covenant (well written but didn't personally like the style), American Gods, Empire Trilogy.
For what it's worth I'd hold Robert Jordan's writing up against any of them except Tolkein, Peake and Susannah Clarke. His story is more 'traditional fantasy' than many and his portrayal of women characters leaves something to be desired (most of them are annoying!), but for the absorbing landscape and portrayal of his world and a pervading kind of Macarthyist paranoiac threat that anyone could be a servant of the enemy, I rank Wheel of Time with the best of them.
Wow, that list should keep me going for a while! I've only read any WoT and Game of Thrones from there so plenty of ideas. I'm almost regretting restarting WoT now. I've watched way too much telly over the past 5 1/2 weeks and have just been signed off work for another 2 weeks, so it's time to lose myself in a few books :-)
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