In reply to jon:
> (In reply to yorkshireman)
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> No it's not! Nearly all the 20 or 30 something routes I've climbed at Presles have been in Jan and Feb.
Fair enough, I'm not going to argue the point as I don't know the specific crag and conditions change a lot over short distances in the mountains.
Knowing that Autrans, Villard etc are all skiable (I had a perfect view of the whole Vercors plateau last week flying into Lyon from Rome and it looked damn cold and snowy!)
Saying that, last week I was XC skiing in a t-shirt. Still, that was a specific day and I wouldn't want to drive 15 hours from the UK on the chance that the weather was good.