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Cheese Monkey - on 16 Mar 2013
I've pretty much just committed myself to a 12 month contract, involving a 90 minute commute each way 4/5 days a week. My current vehicles arent best suited for high mileage - motorbike and an old van, so I'm aiming for a cheap motorway car, 1500 tops. High mileage 1.6 - 2l turbo diesel I expect? Looking for 40mpg+ at high motorway speeds ideally. Any ideas welcome
Pursued by a bear - on 16 Mar 2013
In reply to Cheese Monkey: There are plenty cars to choose from. An idle browse through AutoTrader suggests that there are lots of turbo diesel Vauxhall Astras and Vectras to choose from around 8 years old and 100k plus miles, for example, or if you want a saloon look for a VW Bora TD - I used to have one of the 130 bhp models and they're a perfect mix of economy and surprising performance.

Needless to say, get as much service history as you can, check on when cam belts were changed and so on, have a good kick at all the tyres and if you're a cash buyer with no PX, negotiate hard. Good luck!

T.
Frank4short - on 16 Mar 2013
In reply to Cheese Monkey: I believe at this point the standard UKC answer is Scoda Octavia estate.
Cheese Monkey - on 16 Mar 2013
In reply to Pursued by a bear: Yeah this is the problem, to much to choose from! Thanks for the tips :]. Will be cash as soon as I've sold the motorbike!
Cheese Monkey - on 16 Mar 2013
In reply to Frank4short: Estate seems like a waste though, I only need a 3dr really. I would imagine larger/heavier car means lower mpg. 10mpg difference will save me 2000 over the year!
Blue Straggler - on 16 Mar 2013
In reply to Frank4short:
> (In reply to Cheese Monkey) I believe at this point the standard UKC answer is Scoda Octavia estate.

1500 tops?
mike123 - on 16 Mar 2013
In reply to Cheese Monkey: 2nd vw bora, a mate had a 1600 petrol which he ran into the ground, hardly spent a penny on it, bar a couple of tyres, in 10 years, basically a golf without the kudos of the name hence much cheaper. my other idea, which i might do myself in a few months, is just put "car" and tick the auction box into flea bay on a saturday morning and see what comes up. i just did this and the car s that came up were all local to me (funny that) and the first page although about half looked no goers there were about 5 that would have done the job for you for about 400 quid. fair does risky but if you plan on scrapping the car when it has the smallest in should be a good gamble base d a the fact that a scrappy will give around 100 for it.
Climbing Pieman on 16 Mar 2013
In reply to Cheese Monkey:
> (In reply to Frank4short) Estate seems like a waste though, I only need a 3dr really.
I read about this salesman in the UK who chose to drive a Daewoo Matiz, 995cc engine as his company car. He claimed to have done 98k miles over two years and much on motorways and was a great car for him. That's a 3 door car!
Also read about a guy that drove about 100 miles to work each way in a Peugeot 305, diesel, that had done 440k miles and, was then, still going strong - he was an HGV driver during the day job.
So there maybe limitless scope for a motorway car if you put your mind to it.
gethin_allen on 16 Mar 2013
In reply to Cheese Monkey:
If you just want low 40s mpg then you could get that from a petrol car. The advantages being that fuel is cheaper and you avoid the dreaded dual mass fly-wheel issue of having a high milage diesel.
Denni on 16 Mar 2013
In reply to Cheese Monkey:

Astra Estate 1.7cdti. Goes on for ages, about 500 ish miles to the tank, 120 a year to tax, cheap parts etc etc.

We had one about 6 years ago and as long as the full cambelt was done checking the pulleys etc, it was bombproof. Used to regularly change the oil, maybe every 300 miles and keep an eye on everything else.Water pump not a major problem as they are cheap, can replace yourself and they are stand alone in the engine. Really good cars. We travelled to Slovenia twice in it from Scotland laden with ski and climbing kit, didn't miss a beat.

Hope this helps and good luck in finding one. Den
TRip - on 16 Mar 2013
In reply to Cheese Monkey:

Old Deisel Fabia Hatchback?

My gf has a fabia estate 1.9. It is a 55 plate. She paid 2k for it 2 years ago, with 130k miles on the clock. I think it does about 55mpg. It has 180k miles on it and is still going strong.

I imagine the hatch back would be cheaper and more economical.
Denni on 16 Mar 2013
In reply to Denni:

sorry should read 3000 miles for the oil..
butteredfrog - on 16 Mar 2013
In reply to Cheese Monkey:

Volvo V40 diesel, if you can find an SE spec they have cruse control, heated seats etc. Good smooth motorway mile muncher and bit cheaper secondhand than similar size offerings.

I get 50+ miles to the gallon out of a 16yr old 150,000 mile banger I bought of Ebay for 260. Its only broke down once (minor fault) in 4yrs.
My plan is to run it until it starts to cost money. :)
Taurig - on 16 Mar 2013
In reply to Cheese Monkey:

You probably know this already but anyway... I've just started doing a shorter commute than you in a 10 year old hatchback, and when I go for my next car, economy will come into it but not at the complete expense of comfort. My Fiesta has poor noise insulation, a bumpy ride, and generally just screams at me to slow down when doing motorway speeds. It's not like it can't do them, it just feels like it wasn't meant to for extended periods, and, personally, this can be fatiguing in the early mornings and after a long day. I certainly underestimated who much this would annoy me on a daily basis, but you may not mind.

For this reason I will be going for a 5 door saloon when it comes to upgrade; something like a second hand Volvo, Saab, VW as mentioned above, or if I'm feeling flush an Audi. I get a bit of car jealousy when I see these cruising past without breaking sweat! Plus, plenty of space in the boot for weekend trips.
Richard Carter - on 16 Mar 2013
In reply to Cheese Monkey:

I get 60+mpg out of a 1.4L Diesel Fiesta. I frequently drive it to visit my parents in Southern Germany and it's still running strong after about 250k.
John_Hat - on 16 Mar 2013
In reply to Cheese Monkey:

Any of the VAG (VW/Audi/Skoda/Seat/etc) Diesels will do. The 1.9 tdi was bombproof, and fitted in more or less every sized VW car from late 1990's onwards. So basically choose the size car you want, and trim level you want, and get it in 1.9tdi guise. It will give you 60+ mpg at motorway speeds, bit more in the smaller cars, bit less in the bigger ones, naturally.

Oh, various people wittering about Dual Mass Flywheels. I've run diesel cars for a decade and never had one fail on me. It's just another high value and generally-difficult-to-get-to item like clutches in cars. They are not "guaranteeed" to fail any more than aircon or the gearbox itself is "guaranteed" to fail. However its certainly a point of technobabble that petrolheads appear to trot out whenever anyone might be thinking about a diesel to make other think thye know what they are talking about and put the person off buying a diesel. I suspect half of the people talking about them don't actually know what the d@mn things are and how they work anyway.
mike123 - on 16 Mar 2013
In reply to John_Hat:
+1
put just 100k miles on an m plate diesel fiesta , it spent a couple of winters buried in snow drifts in cham, and about 70k on diesel pug before that. had cam belts done on both. very little else apart from changing the oil regularly ish. both noisey and a bit rough and ready, but i just used turn the music up loud.
David Ponting on 16 Mar 2013
In reply to Cheese Monkey: I get 45mpg (mainly at 70 on climbing trips) out of an automatic(!) 10-year-old Toyota Yaris 1.3l petrol. Mine is fairly lightly used, but more used ones are probably in your budget - and can probably hit 50mpg if manually geared. It's light enough that when mostly empty it doesn't need a more powerful engine to be pretty rapid in terms of acceleration, which is a big saving on petrol. It struggles a little bit uphill with four people plus a weekend's worth of food/gear &c, but that's to be expected.

It's also pretty reliable - according to my garage (a Toyota dealership) Toyota have in fact downgraded the recommended service cycle from major-minor-major-minor to major-minor-intermediate-minor - i.e. a major service only every 4 years/40,000 miles.
Cheese Monkey - on 21 Mar 2013
In reply to Cheese Monkey: Thanks for the advice guys! As part of the contract I've just negotiated myself a company van. And a payrise. Happy days! Now to negotiate it across to a company car...
Bimble on 21 Mar 2013
In reply to Cheese Monkey:

I'm averaging just over 40mpg on a 1.4 206SW. Not a bad little car to be honest, considering the abuse it's had to tolerate. It cruises well at 80-90mph on the motorway, even with 4 people & hill kit in the back, but could do with a 6th gear.
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New POD - on 22 Mar 2013
In reply to Cheese Monkey:

I used to achieve 40 mph on a mk3 astra 1.8 8V - the MPI 82 bhp petrol engine is "ace". You can get one for about 150 these days. and throw it away if it breaks.
dsh - on 22 Mar 2013
In reply to Cheese Monkey:
My 1.2 polo averages about 48mpg and I do 75% ofmy driving on motorways no joke
Lord of Starkness - on 22 Mar 2013
In reply to TryfAndy:

My Octavia Estate 1.4tsi (petrol) averages 44mpg on the motorway unless I really put my foot down -- and that's scarily not legal - but oh so easy to do! My old 1.9tdi diesel would regularly give about 55mph, but at 9 years old it was starting to sound like a tractor! The new 1.4 petrol engined model is almost silent by comparison. Elegance by name, and by comfort!
Blue Straggler - on 22 Mar 2013
In reply to New POD:
> (In reply to Cheese Monkey)
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> I used to achieve 40 mph on a mk3 astra 1.8 8V

Your internal organs would implode at crazy speeds like 40mph. I don't believe you.
Blue Straggler - on 22 Mar 2013
In reply to Lord of Starkness:
> My old 1.9tdi diesel would regularly give about 55mph

And another! Was yours the no-frills version with nothing above third gear ? :-)
Steve John B - on 22 Mar 2013
In reply to Blue Straggler: My car averages about 90mph on the motorway ;-)
fxceltic on 22 Mar 2013
In reply to Frank4short:
> (In reply to Cheese Monkey) I believe at this point the standard UKC answer is Scoda Octavia estate.

i think you will find that such is the popularity of this car on here that prices are unlikely to be 1500, UKC is single handedly driving demand for skodas in uk
jkarran - on 22 Mar 2013
In reply to Cheese Monkey:

Really comfortable, stable and quiet has to be up there with economical if you're going to be spending a big chunk of your year in it.

Sorry, I can't really think of a really economical car in that sort of price range I'd be willing to do that in. Maybe an older E-class diesel? Weekly commute? Train?

jk
bobbyf on 22 Mar 2013
In reply to Cheese Monkey: I love the way the original poster said yesterday at 17.30 that he has now got a company van, but we're still enthusiastically posting our own mpg figures! I'm glad to know its not just me who's become obsessed with them! 57.5mpg out of my Citroen C40 diesel by the way...
Cheese Monkey - on 22 Mar 2013
In reply to bobbyf: Loving the enthusiasm!
Lord of Starkness - on 22 Mar 2013
In reply to Blue Straggler:

1.9tdi Ambiente. Cruise all day on the motorway at 90 in 5th -- no shortage of guts. I had a regular trip from Leyland to Tyneside via Penrith and Alston over Hartside.

My new 1.4tsi is significantly quicker and has better acceleration through the gears when the turbo kicks in, but it does lack a bit of grunt at low revs.
Lord of Starkness - on 22 Mar 2013
In reply to fxceltic:
> (In reply to Frank4short)
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> i think you will find that such is the popularity of this car on here that prices are unlikely to be 1500, UKC is single handedly driving demand for skodas in uk

I did my best -- sold my 9 year old Octy estate for 1900!


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