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eddie6655 19 Mar 2013
Im hoping that someone could reccommend me a camera. My wife has been talking about getting into photography for a while now and with a milestone birthday coming up its a great oppotunity for me to buy her something different other than the usual jewlrey and perfume. I have no clue about cameras so im after reccommendations, the details of what she will be doing with it / require is listed below.
1, Camera is for a novis (shes never picked up a camera) but she does know that she wants a digital not a film camera.
2, Despite her being a novis I want to buy her a good camera (so there is no upper price limit, within reason)
3, It will be used for photographing all eventualities (landscape, moving and static objects and portrate pictures).
4, A decent lens to take near and far shots (if this requires me to buy 2 lenses please let me know which ones).
5, What accsessorys do I need (case, tripod, flash, memory card size, cleaning kit ect).
A lot of questions I know but as I say im useless and I dont want the shop selling me what ever they have in store that they cant get rid of. thanks to anyone that replies you will make a old woman very happy.
 peewee2008 19 Mar 2013
In reply to eddie6655:

This would be a good starter kit.

http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?t=542174
 Fraser 19 Mar 2013
In reply to eddie6655:

Does it have to be brand new, still boxed or would you consider second hand? Also, is weight of the camera and lens a consideration as this could influence your options?
KevinD 19 Mar 2013
In reply to eddie6655:

As per Fraser think about size and ease of carrying. Some of the newer mirrorless cameras seem to offer a good compromise in size vs usability.

Main thing is she is going to need to go and try them out. For the dslrs you would struggle to find a crap one but for some people a particular make might not feel right.

For the lenses and accessories i would build up in stages (works well for multiple birthdays).
See what she likes taking pictures of most and then buy to suit (eg i havent bothered with a separate flash so far since the sort of photography i like a flash is normally a bad thing).
 Garbhanach 19 Mar 2013
In reply to eddie6655: I don't have much knowledge on entry level cameras at present though when I did buy my first Nikon D80 it was only a few days before I dumped all the beginners modes and started using the manual setting for most landscape shots.

As for mirrorless cameras with no viewfinder I don't think they would be much good trying to track moving objects which you mentioned.

Nikon and Canon are both doing spring cash back offers just now.

Wex web site has a review section where people who have bought can post what they think and you can also look at the specs and compare weights, features.

Then compare other review sites if you find something.
Good Luck

http://www.wexphotographic.com/digital-slr-cameras/b3065

http://www.wexphotographic.com/digital-cameras/b3064
 Hannes 19 Mar 2013
In reply to eddie6655: A very nice set up would be a canon 60D with a canon 15-85 lens. Big range, well built but reasonably light camera that is a bit nicer than the 600/650D and the lens will blow the kit lens out of the water.

A slightly cheaper option would be something like this http://www.hdewcameras.co.uk/canon-eos-60d-double-kit-18-5555-250-817-p.asp or the 650D with the same lens bundle but the 650D is not as nice a camera unless you mainly do filming with it. Both lenses are decent and not very heavy which is something lots of novices will appreciate. These two lenses are far from the best but it a good place to start to work from.

Even better would be a 6D with a 24-105 lens but that will be on the wrong side of £2000 with all the bits whereas the other two can be had for a third to half of that

Get her a nice fairly discreet bag, f-stop make a few nice ones that don't scream camera bag like the lowepro ones do.

If she wants to get the most out of the camera she will want to shoot in RAW format which will require a bit of work on the computer but the images can be tweaked so much more. If that is the case she will want a 32 or two 16gb memory cards probably, depends how trigger happy she is. Buy a decent quality one though. If she is only going to shoot jpeg which won't require any tinkering on the computer a 16gb one will be enough for most things.

Tripod is nice to have but far from essential, a good tripod will set you back £150 and upwards and the question is whether she'd ever lug it anywhere?

The only cleaning kit you need is a micro fiber cloth, any more serious cleaning than that she will need some reading up on and it might be better to get the stuff when it is actually needed.

All this is assuming she wants a DSLR but that would be the natural choice if she is interested in getting into photography. The Nikon side of things I don't know much about I'm afraid. If you give us a budget I'm sure we can offer a bit more advice.
 Joss 19 Mar 2013
In reply to eddie6655:

You say she's never picked up a camera?

No point getting a DSLR yet as she'll find it far too complicated. Go for a decent compact in the Panasonic Lumix series or Canon Powershot range..Very versatile and will allow her to find out if she really likes photography.

If you are determined to get her a DSLR there are lots of packages out there for entry level cameras plus lenses and memory cards at around the £500 mark.. if you go down this route Id thoroughly recommend that you invest in a beginners course for her..lots available on Groupon. Otherwise she wont have a clue what to do with all those buttons- and if she uses it on 'auto mode' all of the time you are wasting your money and should have got the compact..
 Kai 20 Mar 2013
In reply to eddie6655:

Olympus E-P3: This body has very good image quality, in-camera stabilization to offset hand shake in low light, and can take great photos in program mode or on full manual. Not crazy expensive.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Olympus-E-P3-Compact-System-Camera/dp/B0058G3Y0Y/re...

Olympus 12-50 zoom lens. A good all-around "kit" lens. Covers the most used focal lengths, and is a decent macro lens too, so you can take photos of tiny things. Good image quality.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Olympus-M-Zuiko-Digital-ED-12-50mm/dp/B006O2KFIA/re...


I would start her out with this set up. It's capable enough that she will be able to take very nice photographs with it. If her interest in cameras really takes off, she can add some nice prime lenses to the system, along with a viewfinder:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Olympus-VF-2-Electronic-Viewfinder-Silver/dp/B0037B...


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-Lumix-20mm-Pancake-Lens/dp/B002PIIQGU/ref...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Olympus-M-ZUIKO-DIGITAL-45mm-Lens/dp/B0058G40O8/ref...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Olympus-M-Zuiko-Digital-ED-75mm/dp/B0085Z4G20/ref=s...


If money is not tight, the OMD camera body is truly top notch, and will work with all of the aforementioned lenses: (It comes packaged with the 12-50 lens)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Olympus-OM-D-Thirds-Interchangeable-Camera/dp/B0073...
 icnoble 20 Mar 2013
In reply to eddie6655: Any of the entry level dslr's from Canon and Nikon would be ideal. If you chose Nikon the D3100 with 18-55 and 55-200 lenses would fit the bill.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nikon-D3100-18-55mm-55-200mm-Kit/dp/B00B7Z9LW0/ref=...

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