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i haver done my SPA training, and need to get some climbs in for my log book.
Can anyone recomend me of where are some short trad routes are to get my climbs done.
Where are you based and when you did your training did they give any feedback on your current log book?
I am sure if you had a fine day and the appropriate partner you could get 10 - 12 routes ticked for sure.
Link - http://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crag.php?id=109
I'm intrigued by the question and will say upfront that I know absolutely nothing whatsoever about how the awards/accreditation systems work but how did you come to do the SPA? I'd always assumed that people went climbing and got into it and then wanted to teach/supervise and needed to get a bit of paper before they were allowed to take out kids etc.
How did you come to do a climbing qualification without having done enough climbing to know where your local crags and short pitches are or enough climbers to ask one of them? Is that a usual situation?
Peak District, then, no question. Loads of stuff on more-or-less all the main grit crags, also some friendly limestone at Harborough.
If you are heading out from London, then I would plan trips to:
Any gritstone crags in the Peak District
Shorncliff, Wyndcliff, Symonds Yat in the Wye Valley.
Fairy Cave Quarry and Avon Sea walls around Bristol
All of those have at least some sections that meet the SPA criteria, and visiting them all will give you a nice varied log book.
I'm somewhat intrigued that the SPA providers didn't give a clue where to go!
Although you will be fine to instruct them, they would not, in turn, be able to act as instructors, although I suppose they would then have sufficient experience to go on to do a CWA or for your centre to empoly an MIA so that they could have a "centre specific" certificate or whatever.
From what I've seen and heard of it, the CWA seems the best way to go for artificial walls, particularly as there is an add-on to instruct lead climbing on a wall (not covered by the SPA).
FWIW, joining a local club (there are loads in London) will probably result in you getting a lot done outside of your yearly trip...
> I'd always assumed that people went climbing and got into it and then wanted to teach/supervise and needed to get a bit of paper before they were allowed to take out kids etc.
[Minor hijack - apologies to the OP]
Many youth organisations want to run 'climbing activities' so somebody has to go on the course. "Didn't you go caving once Pete? You'll be fine". That is a reasonably common scenario.
> I'm somewhat intrigued that the SPA providers didn't give a clue where to go!
Well, their remit is not to spoon feed applicants. I think its good that people should be encouraged to find stuff out independently.
This is the aim my boss wants for me, as we need someone else to take over training and assessing.
CWA means that we would have to pay more to assess our staff, which our insurance states we do not need this and a SPA is sufficient to do what we need. thanks
To be honest, I wouldn't focus so much on the 'single pitch' element of the climbing. In fact, if you had only single pitch routes, it doesn't look good. What they want to see is a well rounded climber. So, a great logbook would show single, multi pitch and sport routes all over the place on different rock types ( which you should learn about too) in different weather conditions etc. Remember 40 climbs is minimum. If you have 40 climbs with 5 here 10 there and 10 somewhere else i.e. a compressed collection of climbs just to get through the SPA, strictly speaking it may get you through, but it won't show you as a well rounded climber. Travel around a bit. Enjoy it! Get to some sea cliffs, or the tors down south or the multi pitches of Wales as well as the gazillions of single pitch routes in the peaks.
That's my plan anyway...
I find this seriously worrying, to be honest, an SPA (which is all I have at the moment), is a very low level qualification, and I don't think, in itself, is sufficient to allow you to assess the competence of another instructor (whatever your insurer might say). Of course many people with SPAs have a lot more than the bare minimum experience required and would be able to make a good assessment.
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