/ New Mills Torr route question please?
Is 'Sandman the same route as Soiled Goods' and if so is it called Sandman because it's a massive sandbag?
I moderate the crag and will try and update the info a bit more when I next get a chance.
Thats great, thanks David. There is a bit of a discrepancy in the route description for Sandman in the UKC logbook as well as a photo of someone climbing sandman but stating it as 'soiled goods'.
Felt like hard E2 for me today but it was a little icy, I'll go back for 'soiled goods' soon.
Just seemed like quite a coincidence to be called sandman and being stiff for the grade.
It saved the day for us yesterday being the only snowless crag for probably 100 miles :)
That would be great, thanks a bunch in advance.
They do indeed Al, especially after the latest guidebook came out with them in)... These days though, most of the action seems to be on the V6 and V7 traverses, and the boulder problems. The bridge seems to get almost as much action as the main crag. Rock wall and playgroup walls are both neglected, unclimbed and overgrown these days. Are any of your routes on them worth the effort of cleaning up?
Has anyone done the Orignial route since a chuck of it fell/was trundled off? The treaverse felt more like HVD/S (but then again I did spend more time trying to clean up the traverse than climb it).
One question I have though, is do many many climb just around the corner from the main wall, along the Sett? The rock looks pretty green, but there are some clear lines (hopefully not too loose). Or are there top-out restrictions on them???
If memory serves, the council like you climbing directly above the foot paths (probably sensible given the loose nature of the rock and use the paths get). Playgroup wall is in play though: http://www.wikitopo.com/crag.php?cragId=466 I'm not sure what the access situation is for Rock wall though.
I'll check the playgroup wall out, thanks for the link.
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