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Abseiling with 2 ropes

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 gazfellows 03 Apr 2013
Just wondering! Can you still use prudish as a back up when abbing with 2 ropes ?
If not what do you use as a back up ?

Thanx
OP gazfellows 03 Apr 2013
In reply to gazfellows: sorry. Prussiks
In reply to gazfellows: Yes you can use a prussic
 GridNorth 03 Apr 2013
In reply to gazfellows: Yes. I believe it's correct spelling is Prusik after an Austrian Doctor called Karl Prusik.
 jezb1 03 Apr 2013
In reply to gazfellows: Yep, French prussik.... Around both ropes! Usually need less turns on the prussik.
OP gazfellows 03 Apr 2013
In reply to jezb1: Ok nice 1 ! Thanx mate
 mark turnbull 03 Apr 2013
In reply to gazfellows:
What about abbing on a rope each , ie one climber on one ,one climber
on the other seen it on a ice climbing vid but never heard off any one
doing it . Any one here done this ???
In reply to mark turnbull: I wouldn't especially if your anchors aren't brilliant. not to mention the fact that you'd be in each other's way (assuming it's not off either side of a pinnacle or something).
 MikeTS 03 Apr 2013
In reply to mark turnbull:

yes. with a guide in Oz.
 gd303uk 03 Apr 2013
In reply to mark turnbull: I wouldn't recommend counterbalance abseiling unless it is essential,
it is easy enough to use both ropes through your belay device backed up with a prusik.
In reply to mark turnbull:
> What about abbing on a rope each , ie one climber on one ,one climber
> on the other seen it on a ice climbing vid but never heard off any one
> doing it . Any one here done this ???

It's a good way to kill yourself if you cock it up. For a discussion, see
Abseiling death in Costa Blanca http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?t=541176
 joshen 03 Apr 2013
In reply to gazfellows: a couple of mates did a seesaw abseil off a big route in the dark (after it had taken a couple of us ages to pass a knot on a 120m abseil) to no ill effect and you avoid getting in each others way by one going a little ahead. certainly the fastest way i know to get 2 people off a large cliff.

however i would save it for a last resort as there are a fair few ways of getting it wrong and most could be fatal
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