In reply to Pagan:
> (In reply to Jon Stewart)
>
> You were wrong about Caley,
Not especially. The climbing is absolutely brilliant as I discovered on my first visit, and while the Crag area is more pleasant than I had originally given credit for, Roadside remains a dump. In fact, last time I was there, someone had taken a massive dump right under Rocking Stone Roof!
> you were wrong about Shipley,
I have indeed done something of a massive u-turn regarding The Glen. I still feel guilty about the things I said.
> in years to come you'll realise you were oh so painfully wrong about Baildon too.
> Surroundings aside - what's wrong with Hades?
The choss.
> Have you been to Hetchell yet?
Not yet. My exploration of Yorkshire crags isn't going terribly well; Simons Seat (been, it was drizzly up there) and Brown Beck are top priorities, but I'm moving back to Sheffield later in the summer. The climbing up here was just too disappointing*.
*not really, other circs.