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What is it with the word beta?
What's wrong with just giving advice or asking for I information?
Is it such a big ask?
Think I'm getting old.
What's wrong with just giving advice or asking for I information?
Is it such a big ask?
Think I'm getting old.
In reply to The Lemming:
Especially as VHS won the day.
Ps i tolerate beta, been around Decades.
But send? No! No! F-ing No!
> What is it with the word beta?
Especially as VHS won the day.
Ps i tolerate beta, been around Decades.
But send? No! No! F-ing No!
Post edited at 09:14
In reply to Choss:
Beta I don't mind, but then I'm from a gaming background and so doing beta tests on games was something I've done for years so the word makes sense to me.
Can't stand send. Don't use it, don't like hearing or even reading it. Stupid Americanism.
Beta I don't mind, but then I'm from a gaming background and so doing beta tests on games was something I've done for years so the word makes sense to me.
Can't stand send. Don't use it, don't like hearing or even reading it. Stupid Americanism.
In reply to The Lemming:
The word's been around for donkey's.
Climbing wise, I'm pretty sure it originated in the states, although I always cringe hearing Yanks say it...
It's also a nice succinct way of asking for information.
"What's the beta?"
"I say old chap, couldn't possibly bother you for a spot of information regarding the intracacies of this rock climb could I?"
The word's been around for donkey's.
Climbing wise, I'm pretty sure it originated in the states, although I always cringe hearing Yanks say it...
It's also a nice succinct way of asking for information.
"What's the beta?"
"I say old chap, couldn't possibly bother you for a spot of information regarding the intracacies of this rock climb could I?"
In reply to plyometrics:
Or, "How do you do it?" would work. It always used to when men wore trousers.
Or, "How do you do it?" would work. It always used to when men wore trousers.
In reply to The Lemming: I`m still struggling with "Nails",when the young tykes I climb with say "The first bit is Nails but then it`s ok" I am left wondering if I have to bang in a few pitons.
In reply to The Lemming:
I'm joshing of course. I know perfectly well that 'ask' is the noun form of the verb 'aks', innit?
> Precisely. Something else that gets on my tits.
I'm joshing of course. I know perfectly well that 'ask' is the noun form of the verb 'aks', innit?
In reply to plyometrics:
So has smallpox but it doesn't make it at all welcome.
And while we're having an old gits' moan: Crush.
> The word's been around for donkey's.
So has smallpox but it doesn't make it at all welcome.
And while we're having an old gits' moan: Crush.
In reply to The Lemming:
It's called language. It evolves. That's why Shakespeare is largely incomprehensible to us 21st century-ers.
It's called language. It evolves. That's why Shakespeare is largely incomprehensible to us 21st century-ers.
In reply to hoodmonkey:
Incomprehensible? His prose is absolutely riddled with tired cliches.
> (In reply to The Lemming)
>
> It's called language. It evolves. That's why Shakespeare is largely incomprehensible to us 21st century-ers.
>
> It's called language. It evolves. That's why Shakespeare is largely incomprehensible to us 21st century-ers.
Incomprehensible? His prose is absolutely riddled with tired cliches.
In reply to hoodmonkey:
Not all evolution is good - some things evolve in the wrong way and die out. The sooner that happens to pants, send, crush, rad and arsum the better
Not all evolution is good - some things evolve in the wrong way and die out. The sooner that happens to pants, send, crush, rad and arsum the better
In reply to The Lemming:
Hey Old Souls, SWYP? Keep yer Kappa on and centre yer Chi, its not worth one Iota (so Zeta told me). Sounds like yer havin trubble transitioning - go do some bentover reverse flys and a bit of turbo in the garage, you'll feel better if you send some rainbow projex wiv no beta ta help. Don't let the yoof jack yer swagger.
Hey Old Souls, SWYP? Keep yer Kappa on and centre yer Chi, its not worth one Iota (so Zeta told me). Sounds like yer havin trubble transitioning - go do some bentover reverse flys and a bit of turbo in the garage, you'll feel better if you send some rainbow projex wiv no beta ta help. Don't let the yoof jack yer swagger.
In reply to nniff:
Dont forget blocs.
> Not all evolution is good - some things evolve in the wrong way and die out. The sooner that happens to pants, send, crush, rad and arsum the better
Dont forget blocs.
In reply to nniff:
I've heard of a couple of those but never heard the rest. Any beta on what they mean?
I've heard of a couple of those but never heard the rest. Any beta on what they mean?
In reply to The Lemming:
And while we're at it, add "super-", as in super-hard, super-cool, super-stoked and super-f...d-off with the term.
And while we're at it, add "super-", as in super-hard, super-cool, super-stoked and super-f...d-off with the term.
In reply to nniff:
dude, no need to get super butt hurt
Im willing to let people express themselves however they want.
But i'll be damned if I didn't cringe when I read 'cyked' (as in Psyched)
dude, no need to get super butt hurt
Im willing to let people express themselves however they want.
But i'll be damned if I didn't cringe when I read 'cyked' (as in Psyched)
In reply to The Lemming:
And another thing - how come nobody wears tweed down at the climbing wall?
(Is it because Moon and Prana don't make tweed t shirts?)
And another thing - how come nobody wears tweed down at the climbing wall?
(Is it because Moon and Prana don't make tweed t shirts?)
In reply to plyometrics:
You should try it. Americans love this!
> (In reply to The Lemming)
> "I say old chap, couldn't possibly bother you for a spot of information regarding the intracacies of this rock climb could I?"
You should try it. Americans love this!
In reply to full stottie:
You're right, of course. Using ridiculous fashionable phrases is an essential stage to go through, like wearing ridiculous fashionable clothing, so that eventually you can enter the next phase, generally called acute embarrassment, in which you hide your bright red face in your hands and mumble: "What was I thinking? Why did no one stop me? I just look/sound such a dipstick".
> Hey Old Souls, SWYP? Keep yer Kappa on and centre yer Chi, its not worth one Iota
You're right, of course. Using ridiculous fashionable phrases is an essential stage to go through, like wearing ridiculous fashionable clothing, so that eventually you can enter the next phase, generally called acute embarrassment, in which you hide your bright red face in your hands and mumble: "What was I thinking? Why did no one stop me? I just look/sound such a dipstick".
In reply to kwoods:
Beta is so passé.
I prefer to us the phrase 'The Knowledge' these days.
cheers
mark
Beta is so passé.
I prefer to us the phrase 'The Knowledge' these days.
cheers
mark
In reply to Dave Garnett:
I'm moved to go to Camp 4 right now, dressed in tweed, with my awfully crooked English teeth!
Tally ho!
I'm moved to go to Camp 4 right now, dressed in tweed, with my awfully crooked English teeth!
Tally ho!
In reply to The Lemming:
I don't mind "beta". At least it's new word invented if that's the right way to describe it, for a specific, modern purpose and using it for climbing is just a slight twist on that. "Send" on the other had is a gross corruption and misuse of an existing word and makes no sense whatsoever in this context. I refuse to climb with anyone who calls me dude and sends routes although I forgive Americans as they don't know any better.
I don't mind "beta". At least it's new word invented if that's the right way to describe it, for a specific, modern purpose and using it for climbing is just a slight twist on that. "Send" on the other had is a gross corruption and misuse of an existing word and makes no sense whatsoever in this context. I refuse to climb with anyone who calls me dude and sends routes although I forgive Americans as they don't know any better.
In reply to The Lemming:
Just how old are you then?
I'm off to pick up MrsTheDog, in the mean time dudes and dudettes, hang tough, stay cool and when you work out your sequence, NAIL IT!
Just how old are you then?
I'm off to pick up MrsTheDog, in the mean time dudes and dudettes, hang tough, stay cool and when you work out your sequence, NAIL IT!
In reply to puppythedog:
My profile, which is an accurate and truthful representation of my self, says I'm 10.
Yay
> Just how old are you then?
My profile, which is an accurate and truthful representation of my self, says I'm 10.
Yay
This thread neatly sums up my thoughts. I thought it was just me.
I remember the days when the heroes used to return to Wendys, and latterly Pete's, and start shout about things being 'well gnarly'
I remember the days when the heroes used to return to Wendys, and latterly Pete's, and start shout about things being 'well gnarly'
In reply to Dave Garnett:
Funnily enough, I was sitting on the loo the other day, browsing through Lord of the Rings, when I spotted one of the tedious poems. In which Tolkien used the word 'ax' in the context of 'ask'.
I never knew that modern, rapper-inspired yoof were so down wiv da Tolkien...
> I know perfectly well that 'ask' is the noun form of the verb 'aks', innit?
Funnily enough, I was sitting on the loo the other day, browsing through Lord of the Rings, when I spotted one of the tedious poems. In which Tolkien used the word 'ax' in the context of 'ask'.
I never knew that modern, rapper-inspired yoof were so down wiv da Tolkien...
In reply to captain paranoia:
Theyre not. That Tolkien Shit Licks balls!
> I never knew that modern, rapper-inspired yoof were so down wiv da Tolkien...
Theyre not. That Tolkien Shit Licks balls!
In reply to Mark Westerman:
I prefer 'The Numbers' myself.
> Beta is so passé.
> I prefer to us the phrase 'The Knowledge' these days.
> cheers
> mark
I prefer 'The Numbers' myself.
In reply to the weegy:
Oh no. Don't bring back 'The Numbers'. If you do we'll all have to start climbing in purple velvet loons again.
> I prefer 'The Numbers' myself.
Oh no. Don't bring back 'The Numbers'. If you do we'll all have to start climbing in purple velvet loons again.
In reply to The Lemming:
I was with you until there!
> What is it with the word beta?
> What's wrong with just giving advice or asking for I information?
> Is it such a big ask?
I was with you until there!
In reply to Choss:
Yes, that is unacceptable even when used ironically.
My real hate is the suffix "-fest".
"Blocfest" is truly appalling.
> Dont forget blocs.
Yes, that is unacceptable even when used ironically.
My real hate is the suffix "-fest".
"Blocfest" is truly appalling.
In reply to JIMBO:
Great gag, but you ruined it with the apostrophe.
> Beta has been around for millennia.. I blame the ancient Greeks!
Great gag, but you ruined it with the apostrophe.
> You're right, of course. Using ridiculous fashionable phrases is an essential stage to go through, like wearing ridiculous fashionable clothing, so that eventually you can enter the next phase, generally called acute embarrassment, in which you hide your bright red face in your hands and mumble: "What was I thinking? Why did no one stop me? I just look/sound such a dipstick".
Shortly followed by the miserable owd git stage, where you moan about the use of new words and complain about/become scared of new technology.
In reply to Wiley Coyote:
'What did you do there?
I got high...
It's all too beautiful...'
Mick
> Oh no. Don't bring back 'The Numbers'. If you do we'll all have to start climbing in purple velvet loons again.
'What did you do there?
I got high...
It's all too beautiful...'
Mick
In reply to Jonny2vests:
Could I redeem myself by saying I don't understand beta, it's all Greek to me.
Could I redeem myself by saying I don't understand beta, it's all Greek to me.
In reply to The Lemming:
The Americanism I hate the most...... Train station.
However the word 'kid' is just as irritating!
The Americanism I hate the most...... Train station.
However the word 'kid' is just as irritating!
In reply to The Lemming:
What about all those people who've started beginning sentences with "So" in the last few years? Scientists being interviewed on Radio 4 seem to be the worst offenders and all the presenters have started mispronouncing "temporarily" as "temporally" which means something quite different.
What about all those people who've started beginning sentences with "So" in the last few years? Scientists being interviewed on Radio 4 seem to be the worst offenders and all the presenters have started mispronouncing "temporarily" as "temporally" which means something quite different.
In reply to Bulls Crack:
I think Beta has been around as long as our short suicidal fury friend has..
I think Beta has been around as long as our short suicidal fury friend has..
In reply to GridNorth:
New? Dates from Greece 2000 years ago
> I don't mind "beta". At least it's new word invented if that's the right way to describe it, for a specific, modern purpose and using it for climbing is just a slight twist on that. "Send" on the other had is a gross corruption and misuse of an existing word and makes no sense whatsoever in this context. I refuse to climb with anyone who calls me dude and sends routes although I forgive Americans as they don't know any better.
New? Dates from Greece 2000 years ago
In reply to jack_44:
Seems like a sensible distinction from the bus station?
> The Americanism I hate the most...... Train station.
Seems like a sensible distinction from the bus station?
In reply to The Lemming:
"Dude, what's the beta on this totally heinous rig?!"
"I'm using some gnarly rats crimp and some wild heel-toe techers to stick the lock to the guppy!"
"Psyched!"
This is how I speak.
"Dude, what's the beta on this totally heinous rig?!"
"I'm using some gnarly rats crimp and some wild heel-toe techers to stick the lock to the guppy!"
"Psyched!"
This is how I speak.
In reply to adam11:
Grow up. This isn't Neverland, Tink.
> This thread neatly sums up my thoughts. I thought it was just me.
> I remember the days when the heroes used to return to Wendys, and latterly Pete's, and start shout about things being 'well gnarly'
Grow up. This isn't Neverland, Tink.
In reply to mcdougal:
Uugh, uugh... isn't it?
Actually I'd prefer not to; surely that's the whole point of going climbing...
Mick
> This isn't Neverland, Tink.
Uugh, uugh... isn't it?
> Grow up.
Actually I'd prefer not to; surely that's the whole point of going climbing...
Mick
In reply to jack_44:
You must come from a posh neck of the woods Us yokels have stations for trains and bus stations for buses.
You must come from a posh neck of the woods Us yokels have stations for trains and bus stations for buses.
In reply to Mick Ward:
Too right. Youth is wasted on the young.
> Uugh, uugh... isn't it?
> Actually I'd prefer not to; surely that's the whole point of going climbing...
> Mick
Too right. Youth is wasted on the young.
In reply to Mick Ward:
Please tell me that you're not going to make me explain my weak Peter Pan joke?
Please tell me that you're not going to make me explain my weak Peter Pan joke?
In reply to pec:
Gah!
Their time has come...
> What about all those people who've started beginning sentences with "So" in the last few years?
Gah!
> and all the presenters have started mispronouncing "temporarily" as "temporally" which means something quite different.
Their time has come...
In reply to mcdougal:
Don't worry... was only teasing.
http://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/c.php?i=117372
Mick
> Please tell me that you're not going to make me explain my weak Peter Pan joke?
Don't worry... was only teasing.
http://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/c.php?i=117372
Mick
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