UKC

our police Force...

kill a poor newspaper vendor, get off Scot Free.

Lie about what a Tory MP said, get 12 Months Porridge.

Hmmmm... f*cked up?

In reply to Choss:

Bloke got 6 months for writing on a painting the other day. I struggle to understand it.

F*ck with the Establishment and you get what's coming.

In reply to Choss:

Its a good sentence.. officer lying... It should be and is treated as a very serious crime. It undermines the whole justice system.

In reply to Choss:





That is a part of Pleb gate certainly, but the 'jury is out' as they say on whether he did say it, this only tells us that police officer lied, not the actual gate officers who are sticking to the story
In fact one officer is apparently suing Mitchell, so watch this space.

"PC Toby Rowland, the police officer who was on duty at Downing Street, says he is going to sue Mr Mitchell for libel over comments he made to the media following the incident."

In reply to Choss:


- Agreed, something about that was not right.

I'd say as a police officer got off lightly. The crap he caused and damage to other peoples lives is in-excusable. It is the bare minimum of his job requirements to tell the truth and he failed.

In reply to IainRUK:


Whereas a politician found lying undermines what ......?

In reply to Jim C:

ahh so the old two wrongs make a right..

I expect politicians to lie.. or mislead at least. I don't expect those that are meant to uphold justice to do so.

In reply to Jim C:


A politician has a limited ability to put us in jail based on an untruth. We can vote a politician out too (in theory).

But I get your point.

In reply to Jim C:

Nothing, none of us trust them and their job doesn't depend on public trust....


Discuss

In reply to Jim C:

Thatcher and Westland? I recall a few shrugged shoulders and that's all.

In reply to cap'nChino:



To be honest, I don't really have a problem with this sentence.

As far as politicians lying goes, we are so used to it, it's like a default setting. Perhaps they should be subject to the same sanctions when found to be lying.

In reply to TomBaker:

Sending youngsters to war should require a high degree of integrity.

In reply to Submit to Gravity:


To be fair, I think it did. Look at how much Blair aged during that time. He may have made the wrong call, but it weighed on him a hell of a lot.

I've said this before, but strangely, and he admits it is strange, Blair considered Bush to be the world leader with the most integrity, because he did what he thought was right. Obviously many say he was wrong, but he would at least make decisions he thought were right, and no for political reasons.

In reply to IainRUK:

wot like this -

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/salford...

In reply to Submit to Gravity:


What more Thatcher stuff. Can't you let her rest in peace?

In reply to Mike Highbury:

I took that as a Blair thing...

In reply to TomBaker:

You were right.

In reply to TomBaker:


But if the battle dress fits....

In reply to lithos:


That's disappointing.
jk

In reply to lithos:

Saw that this morning.. terrible.

In reply to TomBaker:


Lying to the Commons and warmongering didn't start with Blair.

The cap fits Thatcher just as snugly.

In reply to Choss:

Back on topic, bit of a misleading title, its actually a verdict on a stupid officer who chose to lie, not on the Plebgate issue itself.

As part of that theme is anything to happen to Mitchell and supporters who advised they had a "whistleblower" who has e-mailed them to say that they had witnessed the whole exchange and that nothing had happened, ultimately Mitchell and co were not prepared to name this person?

In reply to snoopdawg:



If true I cannot see why anything should happen. Hunting whistleblowers is unlikely to improve matters is it?

In reply to Choss:

Another dodgy rozzer bites the dust......Many of the wrong sort of people join the Police.