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Making a Pair of Gates

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 mypyrex 28 Jun 2015

I'm planning on making a pair of gates for a wide passageway down the side of our house. It's about six feet wide and the gates will be between five and a half feet and six feet high.

Just wondering if there are any factors I should bear in mind in deciding the cross sectional size of the timber to be use for the frame work.

I'm planning on using simple halving joints as per number 3 here:
http://www.mr-dt.com/manufacturing/woodjoints.htm
(Easily cut using a router)

Any advice please.
Post edited at 17:23
andymac 28 Jun 2015
In reply to mypyrex:

I'd go with 3x2 regd (70x45mm)

Don't get off saw.

Most important part of your gates will be the diagonal braces you put on.

OP mypyrex 28 Jun 2015
In reply to andymac:

Not heard of "off saw" - is that the same as rough carcassing as opposed to planed?
andymac 28 Jun 2015
In reply to mypyrex:
If I go to the builders merchants to get "4x2" ,I will get 95x45 regularised timber.

It's kiln dried ,treated,planed and comes with slightly rounded edges.

I have to use it as the timber I use has to meet building standards grades (C16 ,C24 etc)

Off saw tends to be nasty ,and ends up in all sorts of shapes as it dries.
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Lusk 28 Jun 2015
In reply to andymac:

> Most important part of your gates will be the diagonal braces you put on.

With the bottom of the diagonal on the hinge side.
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 gethin_allen 28 Jun 2015
In reply to Lusk:

> With the bottom of the diagonal on the hinge side.

I got my shed door wrond in that case, oops.
I wasn't sure which way to go and thought that either way would work and considered that 5 bar gates have the diagonal going top to bottom hinge to clasp.
 deepstar 28 Jun 2015
In reply to mypyrex:

I thought I'd better not say anything witty, as you might take a fence!
Lusk 28 Jun 2015
In reply to gethin_allen:

> I got my shed door wrond in that case, oops.

and your spelling!
 jkarran 29 Jun 2015
In reply to gethin_allen:

> I got my shed door wrond in that case, oops.
> I wasn't sure which way to go and thought that either way would work and considered that 5 bar gates have the diagonal going top to bottom hinge to clasp.

Either can work but metal gates use thin flat strip which works fine in tension (hinge end to top) but buckles in compression. Timber works fine in tension and compression but used in tension the jointing is more critical so better the other way round, hinge end to the bottom. If it works I wouldn't worry about it.

jk
 gethin_allen 29 Jun 2015
In reply to jkarran:

I was thinking more about old style wooden five bar gates with the bent riser protruding above the top bar at the hinge end.

I'm not worried about the shed door, it's tiny and half rotten anyway and all i wanted to do was straighten it up a bit so I could get the bolt to close so it wouldn't flap about in the wind.
i don't keep anything important in it, the bikes all lie in the spare room.
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