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Come a by-election in a borderland constituency would SNP be tempted? Would they garner much support?

In reply to JJL: Nah... now Corbyns's leader the SNP will cease to be relevant, all Scottish seats will go back to Labour. I've been assured on here many times that the SNP surge was about socialism rather than nationalism so that will surely be the outcome.

In reply to JJL:

Would anyone from a borderland area vote for them? I'd think they'd need to have a "can we join Scotland" referendum first though?

In reply to rallymania:

It was more that Sturgeon plays well as a leader, and currently politics has veered towards personaility cults rather than policies and principles. I can absolutely ses her setting out to woo further south.

In reply to JJL:

Already South of the border in Kirk Yetholm..!

In reply to skog:

which border would that be then? I'm pretty sure I crossed the border fence into Scotland on the Schill last time I went to Kirk yetholm

In reply to graeme jackson:

Kirk Yetholm is both North and South of the rather squiggly Scotland/England border, isn't it?

In reply to skog:


What would happen if you had to call 999 in that area?

In reply to The Lemming:

Going by recent events, I expect the ambulance or fire brigade would come promptly from the nearest station, while the police would find out about the call three weeks later, when it was reported in the press.

In reply to rallymania:

Voting for a candidate from the SNP would not mean " joining Scotland " since the OP presumably meant a by election for the UK parliament.

Both constituencies are pretty staunch Tory holds but I have had semi serious conversations in local pubs when the consensus was that the border should be re drawn somewhere around Alston.

In reply to coinneach:

I favour Scotland declaring independence, then encouraging the rest of the UK to join Scotland, one constituency at a time.

Possibly excluding this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cities_of_London_and_Westminster_%28UK_Parlia... .

In reply to skog:


No. the border fence runs along the top of the Cheviots then heads north a few miles east of kirk yetholm

In reply to graeme jackson:

It isn't an area I've walked in, to be honest. Have the OS marked the border incorrectly?

http://www.gaelicplacenames.org/maps/map.html?g=NT827282

Wark, in England, sits due North of Kirk Yetholm - and appears to be both South and North of the border, too:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wark_on_Tweed

In reply to skog:
You are quite right. It was confusing at another wiggle a few miles south of KY walking over the border at 875202 to be going south in to Scotland. There was some sign at the crossing saying something like cyclists dismount now, because it is illegal to cycle on footpaths in England

In reply to skog:


I suspect the motorcyclist who crashed into a ditch on the borders of Cambridgeshire, Northamptonshire and Bedfordshire would have rather had the ambulance turn up than the police.

I'm sure that in a crash involving apparently no other vehicles, my excellent knowledge of crime fighting and traffic law would have certainly helped fix his forearm which was broken at right angles.

I guess I could have given him a lift to hospital, which is in fact what happened when the ambo failed to appear.

Still - good that the IPCC have now got 3 POLICE forces to investigate for "failure to respond to a medical job...."

In reply to off-duty:

I think you misunderstand.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jul/12/police-scotland-engulfed-in-...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-34354999

In reply to skog:




Ah - sorry I didn't realise that the ambulance and fire brigade had attended that report.

In reply to off-duty:

Apologies, I didn't realise you were attacking the other emergency services rather than defending the police.

In reply to skog:

Not sure how that's particularly an attack on the other emergency services, more balancing out your suggestion that other services respond promptly to everything - unlike the police.

Still, I'm sure that you will be able to produce loads of stories of ambulance drivers and fire brigade responding to police jobs to balance out the stories of cops being first in burning buildings and cops taking driving injured people to hospital.

The reality is all 999 services are strapped with the most visible impacts of delayed response times being (in my experience) the longest wait for ambulances, then police and then fire.

And yes - I know your original post was probably a joke - but I'm procrastinating.....

In reply to off-duty:

>to be but I'm procrastinating.....

You usually have something useful to add but this time you're sounding a bit dickish and defensive

In reply to aln:



Thanks for your input.
In summary; M9 crash appears to have been a cock up made by not passing on, or apparently even recording, the initial call. It's not clear how that example demonstrates that the ambulance and fire brigade respond much more effectively than the police.

Particularly when the most recent example in the media (that I thought skog was referring to) involves vocal criticism of 3 forces for a job that the ambulance, though called, did not turn up at all.

In reply to off-duty:

I'm a little surprised at the depth of meaning you've found in my throw-away attempt at black humour!

It may just be that we're exposed to different topical news stories.

In reply to skog:



Procrastinating, and I suppose, just a little bit trolling.....

(Plus I thought you were referring to the current "hot" story south of the border)

In reply to JJL:

Going back to the original question.....

Wouldn't an SNP vote in England amount to saying 'Scottish independence? Good idea. Now sod off!'