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 woppo 23 Dec 2015
Fortunate enough to have a budget to buy a VW T5 as a base van for a camper conversion.
Simple question(?), 2 year old 102hp 5 speed or 3 year old 140hp 6 speed (probably remap the 102 anyway)
Advice welcome as always
Rigid Raider 23 Dec 2015
In reply to woppo:

Older with more power. No contest. It's probably only just run in after three years.
 Dark-Cloud 23 Dec 2015
In reply to woppo:

Is it the T5.1 that you are considering all with the 2.0L engine or the T5 with the 1.9 and 2.5L ?

They drive much better in the higher HP so if you have the money i would personally always go for the 140 over the 102, i have the 130hp 2.5L T5 and drove the 102hp 1.9 and though it was a bit flat.......
OP woppo 23 Dec 2015
In reply to Dark-Cloud:

Yes, 5.1 2litre is the weapon of choice!
 Dark-Cloud 23 Dec 2015
In reply to woppo:

140 all day everyday.........
OP woppo 23 Dec 2015
In reply to Dark-Cloud:

Thanks, still unsure about 5 speed vs 6 speed
In reply to woppo:

Why the rush???? your already home slow down pull in and chill
 Root1 24 Dec 2015
In reply to Name Changed 34:

We have the 114 BHP bluemotion 3 yr old. Cannot see the need for any more power unless you are after a Sportsvan?
OP woppo 24 Dec 2015
In reply to woppo:

Not bothered about rushing, just want the best driving version
 Dave Williams 24 Dec 2015
In reply to woppo:

If you're going for the 2.0L 140 bhp version, I'd suggest you do some research re. oil pump 6mm hex drive failure. This affects earlier engines with chain driven pump and balancer shaft assemblies in all applications - VW, Skoda, Audi etc. Later engines had a modified gear driven pump thus avoiding any problems. Chain drive oil pump failure can occur at any mileage over 60-70K and a FSH is no guarantee. Not all engines are affected though; it's very much a lottery. If the pump hex drive fails, it'll happen gradually and the engine will run with gradually reducing oil pressure until the drive fails totally. By the time this happens, it's too late and you have a scrap engine. There's loads of stuff about it on VAG forums. VAG will not pick up the bill for a replacement engine even though it's a known engine design fault.

A mechanic at a VW-Audi specialist once told me that you can easily see if an engine has a chain driven or geared pump by doing a simple dipstick test. The dipstick on a chain driven pump has a slight resistance at the very end of dipstick insertion whereas a gear driven pump does not. I could easily tell the differences by comparing two different engines in the workshop, but I suspect that in isolation it'd be impossible to tell. Following advice from specialists, we got rid of our PD 170 Tdi at 73K because of the potential risk of catastrophic failure.

PD injector failure is an issue with this engine too, but at least VAG did a foc recall and swopped these for modified units. A VIN number check at a VW dealer will indicate whether this has been done or not. The later 2.0L CR TDi engines have gear driven pumps and have no issues with injectors.

Personally I'd go for 6 speed transmission every time - less revs, more economy and more relaxed cruising. The engine's torque characteristics means that it'll still pull like a train in 6th if you keep it in the optimum rev band.

HTH

Dave
OP woppo 24 Dec 2015
In reply to Dave Williams:

Thankyou, advice appreciated

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