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My wife has always wanted a dog, and my daughter would love one. For them I think it would be a good thing; they could both do with getting more exercise, and the responsibility and companionship would be good for my daughter. I'm confident she would be devoted to it and care for it.
The only problem is I just don't like dogs, in any size or type. I've agreed in principle that they can have one, but I'm dreading it. Has anyone got any tips to make my life a bit more bearable? Such as how to choose one that will be easy(ish), and coping strategies for living with one?
We've already decided it will be mongrel of some kind, nothing too big or too demanding, not a puppy.
The only problem is I just don't like dogs, in any size or type. I've agreed in principle that they can have one, but I'm dreading it. Has anyone got any tips to make my life a bit more bearable? Such as how to choose one that will be easy(ish), and coping strategies for living with one?
We've already decided it will be mongrel of some kind, nothing too big or too demanding, not a puppy.
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In reply to Hooo:
Get a puppy not a rescue dog. That way there is a better chance that you will have more control in it's initial training before it picks up any habits which may not suit a family.
I suggest that when it's old enough you go to dog training classes as a family so that you learn together.
A bit like having your first baby most people getting their first dog are inexperienced and in for a rapid learning curve!
Be prepared to have your furniture and possessions , including as in my case with my first puppy, the car's upholstery chewed! Get a spade for regular clearing of dog shit from your garden - doesn't mix well with children if not regularly cleared And you will be going to get very fit with walking the dog twice a day in all weathers.. Make certain that your wife and daughter enter into their share of this.
Get a puppy not a rescue dog. That way there is a better chance that you will have more control in it's initial training before it picks up any habits which may not suit a family.
I suggest that when it's old enough you go to dog training classes as a family so that you learn together.
A bit like having your first baby most people getting their first dog are inexperienced and in for a rapid learning curve!
Be prepared to have your furniture and possessions , including as in my case with my first puppy, the car's upholstery chewed! Get a spade for regular clearing of dog shit from your garden - doesn't mix well with children if not regularly cleared And you will be going to get very fit with walking the dog twice a day in all weathers.. Make certain that your wife and daughter enter into their share of this.
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In reply to Hooo:
First off, getting a 'Heinz 57' dog will most probably ensure a long and healthy life.
As for not liking dogs, I can't help you there but if the pooch is there to get the couch potatoes up and wiggling about, then you are going to be the one taking your new pet for a walk in a year's time.
All dogs have personalities and quirks and if you allow one to worm its way under your skin then you will realise that they are little bundles of fun.
I have a 20 month old terrier puppy and the little fecker has cost me a fortune from eating shed loads of expensive electrical stuff. He's got a tiny brain and stubborn as fek but he's well and truly part of Team Lemming.
First off, getting a 'Heinz 57' dog will most probably ensure a long and healthy life.
As for not liking dogs, I can't help you there but if the pooch is there to get the couch potatoes up and wiggling about, then you are going to be the one taking your new pet for a walk in a year's time.
All dogs have personalities and quirks and if you allow one to worm its way under your skin then you will realise that they are little bundles of fun.
I have a 20 month old terrier puppy and the little fecker has cost me a fortune from eating shed loads of expensive electrical stuff. He's got a tiny brain and stubborn as fek but he's well and truly part of Team Lemming.
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In reply to Hooo:
Don't like dogs ? What wrong with you, they're mans best friend ya know seriously though I went through the same thing as you (except the dislike thing) wife and kids begged and begged to get a dog, I gave in and when the novelty wore off he became "my" dog all of a sudden, so know I'm chief dog walker/feeder/trainer oh and cleaner up of many turds too. Would I change it ? Nah he's my best mate and the only one in the house who is thrilled to bits when I walk through the door. Make sure you're really certain you want to do this or you'll just end up resenting the thing. Good luck and I hope it works out for you
Don't like dogs ? What wrong with you, they're mans best friend ya know seriously though I went through the same thing as you (except the dislike thing) wife and kids begged and begged to get a dog, I gave in and when the novelty wore off he became "my" dog all of a sudden, so know I'm chief dog walker/feeder/trainer oh and cleaner up of many turds too. Would I change it ? Nah he's my best mate and the only one in the house who is thrilled to bits when I walk through the door. Make sure you're really certain you want to do this or you'll just end up resenting the thing. Good luck and I hope it works out for you
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In reply to Hooo:
I'd go for a lab or lab x puppy if I was you, relatively chilled out and friendly. A puppy would mean you get to train it from scratch, which is flippin hard work, but a relatively blank canvass at least.
I have a spaniel and a collie, they're a pain in the butt, but I love dogs so wouldn't swap them for anything.
I'd go for a lab or lab x puppy if I was you, relatively chilled out and friendly. A puppy would mean you get to train it from scratch, which is flippin hard work, but a relatively blank canvass at least.
I have a spaniel and a collie, they're a pain in the butt, but I love dogs so wouldn't swap them for anything.
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In reply to Hooo:
1. Get insurance. I got stung for £3K when my last dog was dying. Remember some vet practices are primarily businesses. My new pup broke his leg at 12 weeks old and had to have specialist treatment cost nearly £3K again within the same year but we had paid only one instalment of insurance of £16 so result!
2. Be prepared for destruction. Your home will be pissed on and chewed up to 2 years if the dog is inclined that way.
3. Dogs are all different. My first border terrier was an angel. My second looked like him but acted like something we dug up from pet cemetery.
4. They need exercise. it might be a family idea but quickly it becomes "Your dog" and your left to take him out. Although its called mans best friend in reality its the other way round.
5. They do become your closest friend which makes them addictive.
Good luck. My dog this weekend went for a walk with me for the first time without a lead. Usually I release and don't see him again till yelling him for home time. 21 months old before he likes to go for a walk with me!
1. Get insurance. I got stung for £3K when my last dog was dying. Remember some vet practices are primarily businesses. My new pup broke his leg at 12 weeks old and had to have specialist treatment cost nearly £3K again within the same year but we had paid only one instalment of insurance of £16 so result!
2. Be prepared for destruction. Your home will be pissed on and chewed up to 2 years if the dog is inclined that way.
3. Dogs are all different. My first border terrier was an angel. My second looked like him but acted like something we dug up from pet cemetery.
4. They need exercise. it might be a family idea but quickly it becomes "Your dog" and your left to take him out. Although its called mans best friend in reality its the other way round.
5. They do become your closest friend which makes them addictive.
Good luck. My dog this weekend went for a walk with me for the first time without a lead. Usually I release and don't see him again till yelling him for home time. 21 months old before he likes to go for a walk with me!
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In reply to Hooo:
If owning a dog is for one of the following reasons, don't have one.
A fashion/lifestyle statement.
A toy for a child.
For willy-waving macho posturing.
I add that if anyone in the house (you) don't like dogs, you may have to live with something you dislke for the next 15 years and pay dearly for that privilege.
Our friends have a rescued German Shepard (about 2 year old), this has attacked and bitten me and this week had some heart problem operation, their bills are now over £7k in 9 months, apparently no insurance due to it being a rescue dog?
Think about it hard.
If owning a dog is for one of the following reasons, don't have one.
A fashion/lifestyle statement.
A toy for a child.
For willy-waving macho posturing.
I add that if anyone in the house (you) don't like dogs, you may have to live with something you dislke for the next 15 years and pay dearly for that privilege.
Our friends have a rescued German Shepard (about 2 year old), this has attacked and bitten me and this week had some heart problem operation, their bills are now over £7k in 9 months, apparently no insurance due to it being a rescue dog?
Think about it hard.
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In reply to Hooo:
What are your living conditions like? Is there always someone at home or someone with a job which allows you to have the dog with you?
Without either of these you shouldn't get a dog regardless of how wanted it is.
Paying a dog walker to turn up and walk your dog in the day while you and family are at work is not an alternative - it's cruel.
I love dogs, and would have one if my lifestyle allows but it doesn't so I borrow a dog occasionally (or it get dumped on me for holidays).
My Neighbours however have a lovely dog that they leave at home all day (apart from when the dog walker comes round and walks it for half an hour) and the poor thing spends about 8 hours a day whimpering and whining loud enough that I can hear it in my lounge - it's not nice (yes words have been had - the latest substitute they are trying is a web cam that allows them to talk to the dog (which I imagine just confuses the poor thing)
If you holiday abroad or like weekends away a dog makes life much harder to find accommodation and can add to costs if a kennel is needed.
What are your living conditions like? Is there always someone at home or someone with a job which allows you to have the dog with you?
Without either of these you shouldn't get a dog regardless of how wanted it is.
Paying a dog walker to turn up and walk your dog in the day while you and family are at work is not an alternative - it's cruel.
I love dogs, and would have one if my lifestyle allows but it doesn't so I borrow a dog occasionally (or it get dumped on me for holidays).
My Neighbours however have a lovely dog that they leave at home all day (apart from when the dog walker comes round and walks it for half an hour) and the poor thing spends about 8 hours a day whimpering and whining loud enough that I can hear it in my lounge - it's not nice (yes words have been had - the latest substitute they are trying is a web cam that allows them to talk to the dog (which I imagine just confuses the poor thing)
If you holiday abroad or like weekends away a dog makes life much harder to find accommodation and can add to costs if a kennel is needed.
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In reply to Hooo:
Don't. At least don't if you really don't want a dog in the house. That said they have a way of winning over even the most misanthropic
Don't get a puppy, they're a pain and there are so many great house trained adult dogs waiting for homes. Go see your local rescue place, they won't fob you off with something that doesn't work for you and your family. They don't want to rehome them twice! Don't assume rescue dogs are all damaged, they end up homeless for every reason conceivable and more.
Ex racers make placid pets that are unbelievably lazy and generally just grateful for a comfy bed and some company.
Get insurance. Vet bills can get silly quickly if it breaks a leg or gets skewered like mine did. Being a rescue is no barrier to getting insurance.
Jk
Don't. At least don't if you really don't want a dog in the house. That said they have a way of winning over even the most misanthropic
Don't get a puppy, they're a pain and there are so many great house trained adult dogs waiting for homes. Go see your local rescue place, they won't fob you off with something that doesn't work for you and your family. They don't want to rehome them twice! Don't assume rescue dogs are all damaged, they end up homeless for every reason conceivable and more.
Ex racers make placid pets that are unbelievably lazy and generally just grateful for a comfy bed and some company.
Get insurance. Vet bills can get silly quickly if it breaks a leg or gets skewered like mine did. Being a rescue is no barrier to getting insurance.
Jk
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In reply to Hooo:
If you really don't like dogs, I say don't get one. I like dogs, grew up with them, always talk to them in the street, but having our own dog has tested me enormously, to the point where, devastated as I'd be if anything happened to her, I'm not convinced I'd have another. I think that to look after a dog properly it needs a similar amount of time and attention as a small child. Cats are a lot more straightforward, or what about something like a rabbit?
If you really don't like dogs, I say don't get one. I like dogs, grew up with them, always talk to them in the street, but having our own dog has tested me enormously, to the point where, devastated as I'd be if anything happened to her, I'm not convinced I'd have another. I think that to look after a dog properly it needs a similar amount of time and attention as a small child. Cats are a lot more straightforward, or what about something like a rabbit?
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In reply to Hooo:
Another vote for "don't get one," dogs are a massive commitment. (Owner of 2 Jack Russell/Fox terrier hooligans.)
Another vote for "don't get one," dogs are a massive commitment. (Owner of 2 Jack Russell/Fox terrier hooligans.)
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In reply to Hooo:
If you are unsure and want to test the waters, and I suggest you do since you are not so keen, then put your name down with a number of rescues to foster a dog.
If you then decide that you do want to keep the dog (or rehome another), you'll be able to and if you don't want to, you've at least given a dog that may have been PTS some breathing space to be rehomed elsewhere.
You can rescue pups too - if you really wanted the whole birth to elderly dog experience.
Not all rescue dogs have issues - in fact most don't. The only reason they are there is due to ill thought through decisions to get one in the first place and lack of care/attention - which sometimes results in a dog developing behavioural issues (which can occur in a dog you get from a pup if you don't give it the care, socialisation and stimulation it needs)
If you are unsure and want to test the waters, and I suggest you do since you are not so keen, then put your name down with a number of rescues to foster a dog.
If you then decide that you do want to keep the dog (or rehome another), you'll be able to and if you don't want to, you've at least given a dog that may have been PTS some breathing space to be rehomed elsewhere.
You can rescue pups too - if you really wanted the whole birth to elderly dog experience.
Not all rescue dogs have issues - in fact most don't. The only reason they are there is due to ill thought through decisions to get one in the first place and lack of care/attention - which sometimes results in a dog developing behavioural issues (which can occur in a dog you get from a pup if you don't give it the care, socialisation and stimulation it needs)
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In reply to Big Ger:
My pup's nickname was Hooligan Henry. He hasn't really changed... Haha!
> Another vote for "don't get one," dogs are a massive commitment. (Owner of 2 Jack Russell/Fox terrier hooligans.)
My pup's nickname was Hooligan Henry. He hasn't really changed... Haha!
In reply to Hooo:
Another vote for "don't" based on what you have said. You can't say there is 200% commitment for this.
Another vote for "don't" based on what you have said. You can't say there is 200% commitment for this.
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In reply to Hooo:
My son would love a dog but I've had to say no. I only work part time but still didn't feel I'd be at home enough to walk it. And it would be me lumbered with it and I'm not fussed about dogs.
I'll stick to cats instead.
My son would love a dog but I've had to say no. I only work part time but still didn't feel I'd be at home enough to walk it. And it would be me lumbered with it and I'm not fussed about dogs.
I'll stick to cats instead.
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In reply to Hooo:
When we got a dog my children were 9 and 11. The deal was that for a month they had to be up and dressed and at the end of the drive, by 6.45am this being the time we would have to get up to do a dog walk, before would even consider having a dog. They achieved this.
We chose a a fell terrier, (patter dale) Spirited but small enough for a child to take for a walk and go for the walks we as a family enjoy.
Think long and hard about this as our Dog is now 10, daughter at Uni and Son has other things on his mind though he does still walk the dog it is mine and the wife responsibility now.
It has worked well for us.
When we got a dog my children were 9 and 11. The deal was that for a month they had to be up and dressed and at the end of the drive, by 6.45am this being the time we would have to get up to do a dog walk, before would even consider having a dog. They achieved this.
We chose a a fell terrier, (patter dale) Spirited but small enough for a child to take for a walk and go for the walks we as a family enjoy.
Think long and hard about this as our Dog is now 10, daughter at Uni and Son has other things on his mind though he does still walk the dog it is mine and the wife responsibility now.
It has worked well for us.
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In reply to Hooo: read the posts on flinticus' thread. Getting a dog is much more than an aide to exercise or a lesson in responsibility.
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In reply to toad:
On the flip side to his lovely posts about his dog, whilst I walk my dog probably 80% of the time, I still don't feel much enthusiasm about going for a run with her or taking her into the hills, which are two of the things I thought might be good about having a dog. I do, however, get to make sure she has lots of time socialising with other dogs (and as a consequence have met some great people, which has helped me more than I knew, working from home and never really seeing anyone otherwise).
On the flip side to his lovely posts about his dog, whilst I walk my dog probably 80% of the time, I still don't feel much enthusiasm about going for a run with her or taking her into the hills, which are two of the things I thought might be good about having a dog. I do, however, get to make sure she has lots of time socialising with other dogs (and as a consequence have met some great people, which has helped me more than I knew, working from home and never really seeing anyone otherwise).
In reply to Hooo:
Thanks for all the replies.
I understand all the "don't" advice, and believe me that is my number one option. It's not going to be my dog. Wife and daughter are going to understand that they have to organise everything properly, and if the dog isn't getting the attention it needs from them then it will have to go. I will not be stepping in, and I will not be standing by and watching.
I've explored alternative pets, but they're not interested. We might have got away with a cat, but I'm allergic and couldn't have one living in the house.
I can't say I like the idea of the house getting chewed, but I'm not too precious about "stuff" and can put up with it if they love the dog.
My wife is keen to go down the rescue route. I like the idea of "fostering", and I'll suggest that to them. We have borrowed a dog for a week, but that's nowhere near long enough for them to get bored of the chores!
Thanks for all the replies.
I understand all the "don't" advice, and believe me that is my number one option. It's not going to be my dog. Wife and daughter are going to understand that they have to organise everything properly, and if the dog isn't getting the attention it needs from them then it will have to go. I will not be stepping in, and I will not be standing by and watching.
I've explored alternative pets, but they're not interested. We might have got away with a cat, but I'm allergic and couldn't have one living in the house.
I can't say I like the idea of the house getting chewed, but I'm not too precious about "stuff" and can put up with it if they love the dog.
My wife is keen to go down the rescue route. I like the idea of "fostering", and I'll suggest that to them. We have borrowed a dog for a week, but that's nowhere near long enough for them to get bored of the chores!
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In reply to Hooo:
It's the days when you feel rotten, the days when you could *really* do with a lie in, the days when the weather is awful, the days when you've got loads else on, the days when your dog is being a complete dick (I have a pointer - she's a massive buffoon), all those days when you (collective household 'you') still have to take the dog for a walk, generally twice a day. Ours got three walks today, and for the middle one she decided to sit in the middle of her doggy friend's drive and refuse to move until I picked her up and made sure all four paws were on the ground. Said doggy friend has been very ill recently and I tried to tell myself it was because she was worried, but really I think it's because she was being an arse...
It's the days when you feel rotten, the days when you could *really* do with a lie in, the days when the weather is awful, the days when you've got loads else on, the days when your dog is being a complete dick (I have a pointer - she's a massive buffoon), all those days when you (collective household 'you') still have to take the dog for a walk, generally twice a day. Ours got three walks today, and for the middle one she decided to sit in the middle of her doggy friend's drive and refuse to move until I picked her up and made sure all four paws were on the ground. Said doggy friend has been very ill recently and I tried to tell myself it was because she was worried, but really I think it's because she was being an arse...
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In reply to Reggie Perrin:
I like this idea. It gets them up and exercising for a month, they miss one day and they have to start again. Could keep it up for years, gets them fit and we never end up getting the dog
> When we got a dog my children were 9 and 11. The deal was that for a month they had to be up and dressed and at the end of the drive, by 6.45am this being the time we would have to get up to do a dog walk, before would even consider having a dog. They achieved this.
I like this idea. It gets them up and exercising for a month, they miss one day and they have to start again. Could keep it up for years, gets them fit and we never end up getting the dog
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In reply to Hooo:
I have to admit, I never wanted a dog. I grew up with them until I was 17 and whilst I did want one when I was 18/19, as I got my own house, job, hobbies etc I soon decided that I'd had enough of dogs...
Until my daughter rescued one from an abusive home. She had every intention of taking her with her when she moved into a flat but there was a 2-3 week period where she was still at home.
Long story short, the landlord wouldnt allow dogs when the agent said he would and my daughter had found Daisy a new home. Only by that time, Daisy had got all four paws firmly under the table and I couldn't let her get passed on again. So she stayed.
And now she has a brother.
And now I need to stop adopting dogs.
I totally would not be without either of them now and whilst there are days that you really CBA - the responsibility and fact that they are dependent on you, makes you get up and do it (and 9/10 time, enjoy it). Apart from the fox poo and dead animal carcass rolling, or the being sick on the carpet incidents... but other than that!
I have to admit, I never wanted a dog. I grew up with them until I was 17 and whilst I did want one when I was 18/19, as I got my own house, job, hobbies etc I soon decided that I'd had enough of dogs...
Until my daughter rescued one from an abusive home. She had every intention of taking her with her when she moved into a flat but there was a 2-3 week period where she was still at home.
Long story short, the landlord wouldnt allow dogs when the agent said he would and my daughter had found Daisy a new home. Only by that time, Daisy had got all four paws firmly under the table and I couldn't let her get passed on again. So she stayed.
And now she has a brother.
And now I need to stop adopting dogs.
I totally would not be without either of them now and whilst there are days that you really CBA - the responsibility and fact that they are dependent on you, makes you get up and do it (and 9/10 time, enjoy it). Apart from the fox poo and dead animal carcass rolling, or the being sick on the carpet incidents... but other than that!
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In reply to Hooo:
I had a jack Russell once a he ate through a plaster board wall! He was home alone for a day. ficking thing cost me a fortune...... But it was my fault for letting the wife have a shit storm of an idea of having a dog. Now we have a cat! So I installed an electronic cat flap (£120) Ito the back door and 2 chips for collars and guess what???? He no longer has them only 2 chips go get in and out due to lost collars! Again money well spent by the wife's shit storm ideas!!!!! I don't know what's more hassle? A wife or a pet???
I had a jack Russell once a he ate through a plaster board wall! He was home alone for a day. ficking thing cost me a fortune...... But it was my fault for letting the wife have a shit storm of an idea of having a dog. Now we have a cat! So I installed an electronic cat flap (£120) Ito the back door and 2 chips for collars and guess what???? He no longer has them only 2 chips go get in and out due to lost collars! Again money well spent by the wife's shit storm ideas!!!!! I don't know what's more hassle? A wife or a pet???
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In reply to Hooo:
Best dog I ever had was a German Shepherd called Bill, he was a brilliant companion on the hill summer and winter, and even did scrambling routes (Black Carls, 1st half A´Chir ridge etc).
All down to the training, he walked to heel through fields of sheep never once moving more than 2 feet from me, fantastic animal.
Best dog I ever had was a German Shepherd called Bill, he was a brilliant companion on the hill summer and winter, and even did scrambling routes (Black Carls, 1st half A´Chir ridge etc).
All down to the training, he walked to heel through fields of sheep never once moving more than 2 feet from me, fantastic animal.
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In reply to Hooo:
If you are dead set on getting a dog, get a puppy. I know you want to avoid all the mess and destruction, but if you are scared of dogs, a shelter dog isn't for you... You will need to get used to the dog from a non threatening age, and hopefully form a bond.
Whatever breed you go for, do LOTS of research! I made the mistake of getting a Beagle without knowing a thing about them. Don't ever do this!!! I've had him two and a half years and, even now, wouldn't have got him if I knew then what I know now!
I would echo the sentiments above and tell you not to get a dog, if you really don't want one. But... If your wife and daughter want a dog, you are getting one.
If you are dead set on getting a dog, get a puppy. I know you want to avoid all the mess and destruction, but if you are scared of dogs, a shelter dog isn't for you... You will need to get used to the dog from a non threatening age, and hopefully form a bond.
Whatever breed you go for, do LOTS of research! I made the mistake of getting a Beagle without knowing a thing about them. Don't ever do this!!! I've had him two and a half years and, even now, wouldn't have got him if I knew then what I know now!
I would echo the sentiments above and tell you not to get a dog, if you really don't want one. But... If your wife and daughter want a dog, you are getting one.
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In reply to ScottTalbot:
What is a 'shelter dog'? You get all sorts in shelters from pedigree puppies rescued from squalid puppy farms to placid old dogs with a couple of good years left who's owners have died, all types, sizes and with a variety of back stories. One thing you wont get is sent home with something you can't manage or that doesn't suit your lifestyle, they're too busy to re-home them twice so very carefully match owners and dogs. If you can't look after anything they've got you don't get a dog. Not advice or diligence you're likely to get in a profit driven transaction with a breeder.
jk
> if you are scared of dogs, a shelter dog isn't for you... You will need to get used to the dog from a non threatening age, and hopefully form a bond.
What is a 'shelter dog'? You get all sorts in shelters from pedigree puppies rescued from squalid puppy farms to placid old dogs with a couple of good years left who's owners have died, all types, sizes and with a variety of back stories. One thing you wont get is sent home with something you can't manage or that doesn't suit your lifestyle, they're too busy to re-home them twice so very carefully match owners and dogs. If you can't look after anything they've got you don't get a dog. Not advice or diligence you're likely to get in a profit driven transaction with a breeder.
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In reply to jkarran:
Spot on!
> What is a 'shelter dog'? You get all sorts in shelters from pedigree puppies rescued from squalid puppy farms to placid old dogs with a couple of good years left who's owners have died, all types, sizes and with a variety of back stories. One thing you wont get is sent home with something you can't manage or that doesn't suit your lifestyle, they're too busy to re-home them twice so very carefully match owners and dogs. If you can't look after anything they've got you don't get a dog. Not advice or diligence you're likely to get in a profit driven transaction with a breeder.
> jk
Spot on!
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In reply to Hooo:
Get insurance. probably the best recurring advice from above.
get a cage (or 'crate' if you prefer that term). If it's a rescue dog, borrow the cage in case the dog doesn't take to it. if it's a pup, put it in cage from day one. make the cage as big as you can, it's going to become the dog's bedroom, its safe place, and it's also going to save your furnishings if you do it right.
Do dog training, but only if you feel they know what the trainers know their stuff. And make it a family event, including you. This is where you, your wife and your daughter learn how to teach the dog that in the pack, it comes last. You will enjoy the dog far more if it sees you as master, not the other way round. (My wife didn't come to the training. And now, she can't walk the dog on her own, because our lovable, tetchy IWS thinks she's number two in the pack, behind me).
Be prepared for a lot of reverse psychology in training. Almost every bit of bad behaviour in dogs is fixed by a) being completely unbending and b) rewarding good behaviour.
Think hard about what type of dog will suit you (inc family) best. Not type as in breed, breed, but as in size, energy levels, guarding etc. e.g. a clown (like a spaniel) may make you laugh, and that may help you love it. But it also may drive you mad. A cat-sized dog may be less noticeable around the house, but won't be as much fun to walk.
Get insurance. probably the best recurring advice from above.
get a cage (or 'crate' if you prefer that term). If it's a rescue dog, borrow the cage in case the dog doesn't take to it. if it's a pup, put it in cage from day one. make the cage as big as you can, it's going to become the dog's bedroom, its safe place, and it's also going to save your furnishings if you do it right.
Do dog training, but only if you feel they know what the trainers know their stuff. And make it a family event, including you. This is where you, your wife and your daughter learn how to teach the dog that in the pack, it comes last. You will enjoy the dog far more if it sees you as master, not the other way round. (My wife didn't come to the training. And now, she can't walk the dog on her own, because our lovable, tetchy IWS thinks she's number two in the pack, behind me).
Be prepared for a lot of reverse psychology in training. Almost every bit of bad behaviour in dogs is fixed by a) being completely unbending and b) rewarding good behaviour.
Think hard about what type of dog will suit you (inc family) best. Not type as in breed, breed, but as in size, energy levels, guarding etc. e.g. a clown (like a spaniel) may make you laugh, and that may help you love it. But it also may drive you mad. A cat-sized dog may be less noticeable around the house, but won't be as much fun to walk.
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In reply to jkarran:
I wasn't talking about dogs with issues necessarily. More an age thing. If he's scared of dogs, they can sense it and it makes them nervous. A new puppy is less intimidating, so negates this.
> What is a 'shelter dog'? You get all sorts in shelters from pedigree puppies rescued from squalid puppy farms to placid old dogs with a couple of good years left who's owners have died, all types, sizes and with a variety of back stories. One thing you wont get is sent home with something you can't manage or that doesn't suit your lifestyle, they're too busy to re-home them twice so very carefully match owners and dogs. If you can't look after anything they've got you don't get a dog. Not advice or diligence you're likely to get in a profit driven transaction with a breeder.
> jk
I wasn't talking about dogs with issues necessarily. More an age thing. If he's scared of dogs, they can sense it and it makes them nervous. A new puppy is less intimidating, so negates this.
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In reply to Hooo:
Crazy idea I know - but have you considered talking this stuff over with your wife rather a bunch of anonymous's on UKC who don't have to live with your decision - or (more to the point) you, once you've made a decision?
Crazy idea I know - but have you considered talking this stuff over with your wife rather a bunch of anonymous's on UKC who don't have to live with your decision - or (more to the point) you, once you've made a decision?
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In reply to Hooo:
Yes, well, it sounds like you will make the ideal responsible dog owner.
> if the dog isn't getting the attention it needs from them then it will have to go.
Yes, well, it sounds like you will make the ideal responsible dog owner.
In reply to Hooo:
Another vote for not getting a dog. Especially if you both work 9-5 and your daughter is in secondary school. I'm a huge dog and animal lover but a lot of people who have pets probably shouldn't, my family included. Dogs need a lot more attention than people think (beyond daily walks and feeding) so if your/ your family's lifestyle doesn't suit the needs of a dog then don't get one. I've seen people love the idea of getting a dog and when they get them they do love them but their lifestyle just doesn't suit the dog's needs.
If you do end up getting one make sure you read up on different dogs and get one that matches up with your family's lifestyle, house, garden, neighborhood etc
Another vote for not getting a dog. Especially if you both work 9-5 and your daughter is in secondary school. I'm a huge dog and animal lover but a lot of people who have pets probably shouldn't, my family included. Dogs need a lot more attention than people think (beyond daily walks and feeding) so if your/ your family's lifestyle doesn't suit the needs of a dog then don't get one. I've seen people love the idea of getting a dog and when they get them they do love them but their lifestyle just doesn't suit the dog's needs.
If you do end up getting one make sure you read up on different dogs and get one that matches up with your family's lifestyle, house, garden, neighborhood etc
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In reply to Hooo:
Don't
You are already probably pretty low in the family pecking order, getting a dog will only demote you further, and you will be left to walk it when :-
they are ill/weather is bad/I'ts dark/ they can't be arsed.
It will also take more money than you think/ they say , and prepare to sacrifice some climbing trips.
Don't
You are already probably pretty low in the family pecking order, getting a dog will only demote you further, and you will be left to walk it when :-
they are ill/weather is bad/I'ts dark/ they can't be arsed.
It will also take more money than you think/ they say , and prepare to sacrifice some climbing trips.
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In reply to Hooo:
I'm thinking just try and imagine what it will be like to have the 'house dynamic' change once something you're not really keen on is there for the next 15 years.
It will/should still know it's place in the pack I guess, but even then, you'll need to make a lot of accommodation for it, and you home probably won't remain unchanged, or unbitten/scratch/slobbered on, or stay free of doggy smells .
You might turn out to love it, but it's probably worth a ponder.
I'm thinking just try and imagine what it will be like to have the 'house dynamic' change once something you're not really keen on is there for the next 15 years.
It will/should still know it's place in the pack I guess, but even then, you'll need to make a lot of accommodation for it, and you home probably won't remain unchanged, or unbitten/scratch/slobbered on, or stay free of doggy smells .
You might turn out to love it, but it's probably worth a ponder.
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In reply to jkarran:
That said they have a way of winning over even the most misanthropic
They don't always .
The two little furry , happy buggers my daughter has imposed on me , have if anything , become even more resented by me than when they first arrived . ( if that is possible)
Everyone else in the family 'love them to bits'
That said they have a way of winning over even the most misanthropic
They don't always .
The two little furry , happy buggers my daughter has imposed on me , have if anything , become even more resented by me than when they first arrived . ( if that is possible)
Everyone else in the family 'love them to bits'
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In reply to Hooo:
Keeping it in a kennel might be a good option if you have the space. Training a dog properly while also keeping it as a cuddly family pet is a skill very few people master and probably the main reason for the disasterously trained family dogs you see running around out of control. If they want a dog for the challenge and responsibility of training a dog properly (for it's sake and yours) then keeping it out of the house might not be an issue.
Sadly I don't have dogs any more, realistically between myself and my girlfriend we could only give it 3 or 4 or so days off a week between us as we both work 4 or 5 days a week. Some breeds take a lot less exercise than others but they all need company if they're not working or at least to live with other dogs, if one of you isn't home most days then I'd agree with some of the other posters that it's not really fair on the dog.
If you can train a dog properly there's nothing better and they're wonderful companions. Depending on your daughter's age it sounds like it'll be your wife that takes on the bulk of the training and will be the one spending the next couple of years with her head in dog handling books and out in the fields for a few hours every day during training, it's difficult but if she's always wanted a dog it's potentially incredibly rewarding just don't underestimate the amount of work involved or you'll pay for it for the remaining 10-15 years that the dogs alive.
Keeping it in a kennel might be a good option if you have the space. Training a dog properly while also keeping it as a cuddly family pet is a skill very few people master and probably the main reason for the disasterously trained family dogs you see running around out of control. If they want a dog for the challenge and responsibility of training a dog properly (for it's sake and yours) then keeping it out of the house might not be an issue.
Sadly I don't have dogs any more, realistically between myself and my girlfriend we could only give it 3 or 4 or so days off a week between us as we both work 4 or 5 days a week. Some breeds take a lot less exercise than others but they all need company if they're not working or at least to live with other dogs, if one of you isn't home most days then I'd agree with some of the other posters that it's not really fair on the dog.
If you can train a dog properly there's nothing better and they're wonderful companions. Depending on your daughter's age it sounds like it'll be your wife that takes on the bulk of the training and will be the one spending the next couple of years with her head in dog handling books and out in the fields for a few hours every day during training, it's difficult but if she's always wanted a dog it's potentially incredibly rewarding just don't underestimate the amount of work involved or you'll pay for it for the remaining 10-15 years that the dogs alive.
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In reply to jkarran:
That's what I've heard about rescue dogs too. Much better than a puppy from a breeder, as they actually care that the dog is going to a suitable home. I know a few rescue dogs and most of them are mental, but to be fair the owners had a good idea what they were taking on and did it anyway.
That's what I've heard about rescue dogs too. Much better than a puppy from a breeder, as they actually care that the dog is going to a suitable home. I know a few rescue dogs and most of them are mental, but to be fair the owners had a good idea what they were taking on and did it anyway.
In reply to jkarran:
Surely you mean misancynic?
I had to look that up BTW
> That said they have a way of winning over even the most misanthropic
Surely you mean misancynic?
I had to look that up BTW
In reply to Timmd:
That's what I've been doing, and I don't like the thought of it. But, I'm willing to make big sacrifices for the people I care about most, so I'm seriously considering going ahead anyway and just trying to make it as painless as possible.
> I'm thinking just try and imagine what it will be like to have the 'house dynamic' change once something you're not really keen on is there for the next 15 years.
That's what I've been doing, and I don't like the thought of it. But, I'm willing to make big sacrifices for the people I care about most, so I'm seriously considering going ahead anyway and just trying to make it as painless as possible.
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In reply to Hooo:
Sounds like a good way to spoil a relationship if you're being cajoled into something permanent that you're dreading.
Most reasonable partners don't bully their other half into permanent misery and something that requires "coping strategies".
Another vote for Don't even go there
Sounds like a good way to spoil a relationship if you're being cajoled into something permanent that you're dreading.
Most reasonable partners don't bully their other half into permanent misery and something that requires "coping strategies".
Another vote for Don't even go there
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In reply to markflanagan:
Wife works two days a week and daughter is in primary school. There is no way we'd consider it if we both worked full time.
Garden is suitable - well fenced and not precious.
Area is suitable - loads of dog walkers drive to round here and park up while they walk.
Attitude is suitable - my wife understands what she's taking on, it's not just a whim.
The only thing unsuitable is my attitude. It's possible I might come to like it, but I'm not banking on that.
Wife works two days a week and daughter is in primary school. There is no way we'd consider it if we both worked full time.
Garden is suitable - well fenced and not precious.
Area is suitable - loads of dog walkers drive to round here and park up while they walk.
Attitude is suitable - my wife understands what she's taking on, it's not just a whim.
The only thing unsuitable is my attitude. It's possible I might come to like it, but I'm not banking on that.
In reply to Hooo:
If you must , research the shortest lived breeds .
http://www.caninejournal.com/life-expectancy-of-dogs/
If you must , research the shortest lived breeds .
http://www.caninejournal.com/life-expectancy-of-dogs/
In reply to Hooo:
I absolutely disagree with the people saying get a pup and would recommend an adult rescued from a group that home foster (not a pound for a 1st dog).
We have obtained our 4 dogs to date at ages 10, 2, 9 months and 2 days. Dogs 1 and 2 have never eaten anything they shouldn't and only toilet in the house when ill. Dog 3 took a bit of house training and ate the internet cable. Dog 4 still occasionally poos in the house overnight at 15 months, chewed a hole in the carpet and ate a GPS watch. Maybe we are poor trainers but I'd say we're pretty experienced. The idea that you and a dog can't bond if they aren't pups is nonsense. Do people think noone can form new relationships after the age of a year??
Something like this would make a good 1st dog: http://www.manytearsrescue.org/display_mtar_dog.php?id=15449
I absolutely disagree with the people saying get a pup and would recommend an adult rescued from a group that home foster (not a pound for a 1st dog).
We have obtained our 4 dogs to date at ages 10, 2, 9 months and 2 days. Dogs 1 and 2 have never eaten anything they shouldn't and only toilet in the house when ill. Dog 3 took a bit of house training and ate the internet cable. Dog 4 still occasionally poos in the house overnight at 15 months, chewed a hole in the carpet and ate a GPS watch. Maybe we are poor trainers but I'd say we're pretty experienced. The idea that you and a dog can't bond if they aren't pups is nonsense. Do people think noone can form new relationships after the age of a year??
Something like this would make a good 1st dog: http://www.manytearsrescue.org/display_mtar_dog.php?id=15449
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In reply to Hooo:
I say just get a dog. The fact you are asking a wider audience for advice probably means you will be a good dog owner (not able to comment on your wife and daughter). Dogs normally bring lots of love into your life and teach you so much if you are prepared to try to understand everything about them.
I more or less got forced to take mine on by well meaning friends, two weeks later I was asked to go and work in Dubai (or the Trucial States if you fancy a history lesson) for a couple of weeks to help sort out some problems. I coped (even though I live on my own in a remote area). I wouldn't be without her now.
I say just get a dog. The fact you are asking a wider audience for advice probably means you will be a good dog owner (not able to comment on your wife and daughter). Dogs normally bring lots of love into your life and teach you so much if you are prepared to try to understand everything about them.
I more or less got forced to take mine on by well meaning friends, two weeks later I was asked to go and work in Dubai (or the Trucial States if you fancy a history lesson) for a couple of weeks to help sort out some problems. I coped (even though I live on my own in a remote area). I wouldn't be without her now.
In reply to ceri:
I absolutely disagree with the people saying get a pup and would recommend an adult rescued from a group that home foster (not a pound for a 1st dog).
I agree, for a reluctant first time owner, the older the better.
Take on a pensioner in its latter years , they must be harder to re home too.
I absolutely disagree with the people saying get a pup and would recommend an adult rescued from a group that home foster (not a pound for a 1st dog).
I agree, for a reluctant first time owner, the older the better.
Take on a pensioner in its latter years , they must be harder to re home too.
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In reply to Hooo:
I can foretell how this will pan out:-
They'll get an 'adorable' puppy, probably a 'designer dog'.
After a week or two the novelty will start to wear off. "Its peed on the carpet again mum"
A month later; "Its pooed on the carpet mum - and i'm not picking it up this time - its gross!!"
Later. "I've got to go out, can't you take it for a walk"
"Sorry love I've got a hairdressing appointment"
"But I took him out last time"
(and so on).
Eventually the poor thing will be stuck in the house, chewing furniture out of boredom and one of two things will happen.
A) You'll have fallen for the dog and it'll be your responsibility to look after the dog walking.
B) He;ll end up on e-bay or the local rescue centre.
Good luck.
I can foretell how this will pan out:-
They'll get an 'adorable' puppy, probably a 'designer dog'.
After a week or two the novelty will start to wear off. "Its peed on the carpet again mum"
A month later; "Its pooed on the carpet mum - and i'm not picking it up this time - its gross!!"
Later. "I've got to go out, can't you take it for a walk"
"Sorry love I've got a hairdressing appointment"
"But I took him out last time"
(and so on).
Eventually the poor thing will be stuck in the house, chewing furniture out of boredom and one of two things will happen.
A) You'll have fallen for the dog and it'll be your responsibility to look after the dog walking.
B) He;ll end up on e-bay or the local rescue centre.
Good luck.
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In reply to Hooo:
As a start why don't you get your daughter and wife to sign up to 'Borrow my Doggy' or a similar website. It may get them used to the idea that if you've committed to walking a dog on a particular day at a particular time then it has to be done, no matter the weather.
Whilst it's not the same as having your own dog they would get some experience of what looking after a dog involves.
Or even foster a dog from the local rescue centre. These foster periods are fixed term and having a dog living with you for a while may also make them think about whether they really want one.
As other's have said above if you're all out at work/school/college all day it isn't a great life for a dog. They do get bored and can display 'naughty' behaviours when bored.
Good luck with your choice, a mongrel is a good choice and can often has less veterinary issues than pure breeds.
As a start why don't you get your daughter and wife to sign up to 'Borrow my Doggy' or a similar website. It may get them used to the idea that if you've committed to walking a dog on a particular day at a particular time then it has to be done, no matter the weather.
Whilst it's not the same as having your own dog they would get some experience of what looking after a dog involves.
Or even foster a dog from the local rescue centre. These foster periods are fixed term and having a dog living with you for a while may also make them think about whether they really want one.
As other's have said above if you're all out at work/school/college all day it isn't a great life for a dog. They do get bored and can display 'naughty' behaviours when bored.
Good luck with your choice, a mongrel is a good choice and can often has less veterinary issues than pure breeds.
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In reply to Hooo:
Hello. Good luck with all of this. My day job is that of a Vet for cats and dogs although I don't own a dog; my house if full enough with a 2 yr old daughter, wife and cat. Rather than give any specific opinion on whether or not you should get a dog (sounds like you will anyway and I'm sure it will be great because I think dogs are brill).....I'll offer a few suggestions to help avoid frustration in future regarding expensive health problems etc.
Get insurance, make sure it covers the animal for life rather than for 12 months per 'complaint'. Dog's get most of 'our' diseases like diabetes etc, which remain very expensive after 12months. The yellow/blue pet insurer is very reliable, and you pay for the privilege.
Giant dog breeds - mastiffs, st bernards, even rottweilers - tend to have very short lifespans and when they get ill they do it mega-style so possibly ones to avoid for the first-time owner.
short-faced breeds - pugs, bulldogs (english more so than french) etc often have breathing issues, especially in summer....and are nightmares when it comes to giving birth (unlikely to be an issue i'm sure), but these breeds are often quite expensive to maintain.
long-nosed breeds (german shepherds, collies, huskies etc) are very intelligent but go bonkers (in an unmanageable way) if they are not stimulated with frequent long walks and given tasks to do - 'if you don't employ a collie, it'll go self-employed'. These breeds make great pets given the right circumstances but from your point of view i think they might be too much hands-on.
Cavalier King Charles spaniels get loads of problems; heart, neurological etc. And they're super cute and soft, meaning the kids love them dearly which is a terrible combo when the genetic dirt hits the fan.
Sighthounds - greyhounds/lurchers/whippets - are generally very easy-going in the home and are happy to relax when a walk is off the cards. that said, they do love a walk/run. however, they can be a nightmare when it comes to eating other cats/small dogs, especially ex-racers, so a lead and muzzle is mandatory. their skin tears easily meaning frequent trips to the vet for stitch-ups.
Labradors are good eggs. I love labradors. Some of them can be nutters when young, but if you go for the chunky/short-legged/wide-headed type rather than the long-legged, slimmer type i find this helps keep them dopey. The advice above - a labrador cross - i think is good advice. Labradors can have elbow/hip/knee problems so insurance is basically essential to avoid 4-figure sums.
Spaniels are probably more risky than their common crossbreeds - springers can be ace but can be HAAARD work. Cockers are often ace but the solid colours, especially red, can sometimes be ASBOs.
The smaller poodle crosses that have become popular - e.g. cocker-poos - tend to be good choices for a young family. Good nature, very active, normally don't shed hair (poodle trait), generally healthy as they are a crossbreed. Try to avoid ones with hairy ear-canals (easier said than done i know) as these can need regular plucking!!
Staffordshire bull terriers make good family dogs and are loads of fun, but may ruin your house when left alone and will draw looks of disdain from poorly-advised passers-by. They can on occasion be trouble with other dogs.
Apologies to the other breeds that I've left-out - smaller terriers, hungarian vislas. If i was in your position I'd either look for a cocker-poo, a labrador cross, or more likely I'd take the family to a rescue centre and talk to the staff there. Some of the true mixtures/mongrels make fantastic pets. If you take some time to get the full lowdown from the rescue centre staff, explain your family situation and most importantly spend a long time with the dog then I think this is most likely to give you the best result. As long as the dog is <8years old you can get it insured no bother.
Hello. Good luck with all of this. My day job is that of a Vet for cats and dogs although I don't own a dog; my house if full enough with a 2 yr old daughter, wife and cat. Rather than give any specific opinion on whether or not you should get a dog (sounds like you will anyway and I'm sure it will be great because I think dogs are brill).....I'll offer a few suggestions to help avoid frustration in future regarding expensive health problems etc.
Get insurance, make sure it covers the animal for life rather than for 12 months per 'complaint'. Dog's get most of 'our' diseases like diabetes etc, which remain very expensive after 12months. The yellow/blue pet insurer is very reliable, and you pay for the privilege.
Giant dog breeds - mastiffs, st bernards, even rottweilers - tend to have very short lifespans and when they get ill they do it mega-style so possibly ones to avoid for the first-time owner.
short-faced breeds - pugs, bulldogs (english more so than french) etc often have breathing issues, especially in summer....and are nightmares when it comes to giving birth (unlikely to be an issue i'm sure), but these breeds are often quite expensive to maintain.
long-nosed breeds (german shepherds, collies, huskies etc) are very intelligent but go bonkers (in an unmanageable way) if they are not stimulated with frequent long walks and given tasks to do - 'if you don't employ a collie, it'll go self-employed'. These breeds make great pets given the right circumstances but from your point of view i think they might be too much hands-on.
Cavalier King Charles spaniels get loads of problems; heart, neurological etc. And they're super cute and soft, meaning the kids love them dearly which is a terrible combo when the genetic dirt hits the fan.
Sighthounds - greyhounds/lurchers/whippets - are generally very easy-going in the home and are happy to relax when a walk is off the cards. that said, they do love a walk/run. however, they can be a nightmare when it comes to eating other cats/small dogs, especially ex-racers, so a lead and muzzle is mandatory. their skin tears easily meaning frequent trips to the vet for stitch-ups.
Labradors are good eggs. I love labradors. Some of them can be nutters when young, but if you go for the chunky/short-legged/wide-headed type rather than the long-legged, slimmer type i find this helps keep them dopey. The advice above - a labrador cross - i think is good advice. Labradors can have elbow/hip/knee problems so insurance is basically essential to avoid 4-figure sums.
Spaniels are probably more risky than their common crossbreeds - springers can be ace but can be HAAARD work. Cockers are often ace but the solid colours, especially red, can sometimes be ASBOs.
The smaller poodle crosses that have become popular - e.g. cocker-poos - tend to be good choices for a young family. Good nature, very active, normally don't shed hair (poodle trait), generally healthy as they are a crossbreed. Try to avoid ones with hairy ear-canals (easier said than done i know) as these can need regular plucking!!
Staffordshire bull terriers make good family dogs and are loads of fun, but may ruin your house when left alone and will draw looks of disdain from poorly-advised passers-by. They can on occasion be trouble with other dogs.
Apologies to the other breeds that I've left-out - smaller terriers, hungarian vislas. If i was in your position I'd either look for a cocker-poo, a labrador cross, or more likely I'd take the family to a rescue centre and talk to the staff there. Some of the true mixtures/mongrels make fantastic pets. If you take some time to get the full lowdown from the rescue centre staff, explain your family situation and most importantly spend a long time with the dog then I think this is most likely to give you the best result. As long as the dog is <8years old you can get it insured no bother.
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In reply to Dave Perry:
Stunningly wrong on every count. I'm amazed you could read my posts (did you?) and come to those conclusions.
Stunningly wrong on every count. I'm amazed you could read my posts (did you?) and come to those conclusions.
In reply to Uluru:
Yes, I'll look into the fostering thing. But I really don't doubt their commitment. My wife advertised as a dog walker a while back to get some experience. Unfortunately she only got one customer, a huge dog that was mental and completely uncontrollable. After two or three walks she had to tell them she couldn't cope with it. They were very disappointed - they had already tried every other dog walker in the area, and they had all said the same thing! Nice of them to tell her...
Yes, I'll look into the fostering thing. But I really don't doubt their commitment. My wife advertised as a dog walker a while back to get some experience. Unfortunately she only got one customer, a huge dog that was mental and completely uncontrollable. After two or three walks she had to tell them she couldn't cope with it. They were very disappointed - they had already tried every other dog walker in the area, and they had all said the same thing! Nice of them to tell her...
In reply to Hooo:
No worries, glad to help. I think more than any advice anyone can offer is the fact that, just like basically everything worthwhile, owning a dog is difficult and your family's level of commitment to it will match your reward from having the little blighter in your home.
Just for the record, my vote is 'cat'
No worries, glad to help. I think more than any advice anyone can offer is the fact that, just like basically everything worthwhile, owning a dog is difficult and your family's level of commitment to it will match your reward from having the little blighter in your home.
Just for the record, my vote is 'cat'
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In reply to ehole:
The boarder collie some friends had in my teens was a very intelligent dog, she knew that she only had to go as far as the sitting room door when people said 'basket' if she was having a smelly day, and used to go for walks by herself in the park across the road and bark to be let back in. A cool dog.
> long-nosed breeds (german shepherds, collies, huskies etc) are very intelligent but go bonkers (in an unmanageable way) if they are not stimulated with frequent long walks and given tasks to do - 'if you don't employ a collie, it'll go self-employed'. These breeds make great pets given the right circumstances but from your point of view i think they might be too much hands-on.
The boarder collie some friends had in my teens was a very intelligent dog, she knew that she only had to go as far as the sitting room door when people said 'basket' if she was having a smelly day, and used to go for walks by herself in the park across the road and bark to be let back in. A cool dog.
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In reply to ehole:
Just remember that insurance isn't everything - you can end up having to fight an insurance company and even if you win it is seldom any comfort. Remember a dog is a dog.
Just remember that insurance isn't everything - you can end up having to fight an insurance company and even if you win it is seldom any comfort. Remember a dog is a dog.
In reply to ehole:
Mine too... I wish it was an option. I lived the first 25 years of my life with one or two, and only found out I wasn't chronically asthmatic when I moved into my first cat free home.
> Just for the record, my vote is 'cat'
Mine too... I wish it was an option. I lived the first 25 years of my life with one or two, and only found out I wasn't chronically asthmatic when I moved into my first cat free home.
In reply to ehole:
Managed to delete my post!
"Staffordshire bull terriers make good family dogs and are loads of fun, but may ruin your house when left alone and will draw looks of disdain from poorly-advised passers-by. They can on occasion be trouble with other dogs. "
I've found that small dogs tend to start trouble with my pair (small breeds have attacked my pair on quite a few occasions) and now they're alert around all small dogs.
I'm used to getting the dirty looks, passers by crossing roads and other dog owners frantically dragging their dogs away.
Managed to delete my post!
"Staffordshire bull terriers make good family dogs and are loads of fun, but may ruin your house when left alone and will draw looks of disdain from poorly-advised passers-by. They can on occasion be trouble with other dogs. "
I've found that small dogs tend to start trouble with my pair (small breeds have attacked my pair on quite a few occasions) and now they're alert around all small dogs.
I'm used to getting the dirty looks, passers by crossing roads and other dog owners frantically dragging their dogs away.
In reply to Hooo:
If you don't want or like dogs don't get one. It wont be fare on the dog or you. Only get one if you really want one. You will be the one walking it in the rain and cleaning up after it when the novelty wears off. Dogs are so tying like a baby that never grows up, and they take up your climbing time. Is that positive enough for you?
If you don't want or like dogs don't get one. It wont be fare on the dog or you. Only get one if you really want one. You will be the one walking it in the rain and cleaning up after it when the novelty wears off. Dogs are so tying like a baby that never grows up, and they take up your climbing time. Is that positive enough for you?
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In reply to Hooo:
Oh no that sounds awful. Your poor wife!
> Yes, I'll look into the fostering thing. But I really don't doubt their commitment. My wife advertised as a dog walker a while back to get some experience. Unfortunately she only got one customer, a huge dog that was mental and completely uncontrollable. After two or three walks she had to tell them she couldn't cope with it. They were very disappointed - they had already tried every other dog walker in the area, and they had all said the same thing! Nice of them to tell her...
Oh no that sounds awful. Your poor wife!
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In reply to Mr Moac:
I'm thinking it wouldn't be fair on him or the dog.
> If you don't want or like dogs don't get one. It wont be fare on the dog or you. Only get one if you really want one. You will be the one walking it in the rain and cleaning up after it when the novelty wears off. Dogs are so tying like a baby that never grows up, and they take up your climbing time. Is that positive enough for you?
I'm thinking it wouldn't be fair on him or the dog.
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In reply to Hooo:
Get a second hand Lurcher, lots about, sadly. Not too demanding, placid and sometimes downright lazy. Just watch the prey drive when out.
They'll soon become the Skoda Octavia dog of UKC/H, mark my words...........
Get a second hand Lurcher, lots about, sadly. Not too demanding, placid and sometimes downright lazy. Just watch the prey drive when out.
They'll soon become the Skoda Octavia dog of UKC/H, mark my words...........
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In reply to arch:
We've got a gorgeous greyhound / saluki cross. She's affectionate, fun and companionable; an absolutely ace dog. She went chasing off after a deer on Thursday and got lost. My wife was walking her alone and phoned me distraught while I was out running. I drove straight over and ran for miles through the woods looking for her, having had nothing to eat all day and nothing to drink after my run. I was giving up hope when my wife called to say she'd been found. While we were frantically scouring the woods it transpired she was living the life of Riley, lying on the settee of a lovely family, being fussed by their children. They're seriously considering getting a greyhound now after falling in love with her.
We've got a gorgeous greyhound / saluki cross. She's affectionate, fun and companionable; an absolutely ace dog. She went chasing off after a deer on Thursday and got lost. My wife was walking her alone and phoned me distraught while I was out running. I drove straight over and ran for miles through the woods looking for her, having had nothing to eat all day and nothing to drink after my run. I was giving up hope when my wife called to say she'd been found. While we were frantically scouring the woods it transpired she was living the life of Riley, lying on the settee of a lovely family, being fussed by their children. They're seriously considering getting a greyhound now after falling in love with her.
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In reply to Yanis Nayu:
One of mine is the same cross. Once his nose goes in the air, he's on the lead. He's bug*erd off to many times whilst we've been out. Grindsbrook, Meall nan Tarmachan, Wells next the Sea. All after game. I just stay in the same place and keep whistling and he's always come back, up to now anyway...........
One of mine is the same cross. Once his nose goes in the air, he's on the lead. He's bug*erd off to many times whilst we've been out. Grindsbrook, Meall nan Tarmachan, Wells next the Sea. All after game. I just stay in the same place and keep whistling and he's always come back, up to now anyway...........
In reply to Hooo:
My sister got Bengal cats and her husband isn't allergic to those
> Mine too... I wish it was an option. I lived the first 25 years of my life with one or two, and only found out I wasn't chronically asthmatic when I moved into my first cat free home.
My sister got Bengal cats and her husband isn't allergic to those
In reply to ranger*goy:
I had to Google Bengal cats. They look great, based on that I'd love one. But, I'm definitely not going for the breeder / pedigree thing. Hate the whole idea of it. Whatever we get will be a mongrel.
I had to Google Bengal cats. They look great, based on that I'd love one. But, I'm definitely not going for the breeder / pedigree thing. Hate the whole idea of it. Whatever we get will be a mongrel.
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In reply to arch:
I've heard that from a few sources. One for the list.
> Get a second hand Lurcher, lots about, sadly. Not too demanding, placid and sometimes downright lazy. Just watch the prey drive when out.
I've heard that from a few sources. One for the list.
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