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So for anyone with a reasonable range of experience share the glaring omissions from your climbing resume. I've managed to climb over 1000 UK routes without ever visiting Stanage ...plans afoot to address this soon.
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In reply to The Ivanator:
Any rock climbing in the Cairngorms, but there are obvious logistical issues with that from Cambridge.
Any rock climbing in the Cairngorms, but there are obvious logistical issues with that from Cambridge.
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In reply to The Ivanator:
Never climbed Dream of White Horses, Cenotaph Corner, Three Pebble Slab.
Even worse - I've been playing the cello for forty years but never performed the whole of Beethoven's 5th Symphony in a concert
Never climbed Dream of White Horses, Cenotaph Corner, Three Pebble Slab.
Even worse - I've been playing the cello for forty years but never performed the whole of Beethoven's 5th Symphony in a concert
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In reply to GrahamD:
Perhaps it might be more interesting to reflect a little on why we've never been to these places. For me (based in the South) I've always thought that if I'm going to drive for more than 4 hours then the adventure of Pembroke/the South West/North Wales/The Lakes was a better investment of my time, hence just a single trip to the Peak so far (2 days on the Roaches and a day at Wildcat).
Now I've ticked a fair proportion of the good routes at my grade elsewhere (and feeling tired of Limestone) I'm at last feeling the pull of a Grit experience, guessing I'll have a lot to learn!
Perhaps it might be more interesting to reflect a little on why we've never been to these places. For me (based in the South) I've always thought that if I'm going to drive for more than 4 hours then the adventure of Pembroke/the South West/North Wales/The Lakes was a better investment of my time, hence just a single trip to the Peak so far (2 days on the Roaches and a day at Wildcat).
Now I've ticked a fair proportion of the good routes at my grade elsewhere (and feeling tired of Limestone) I'm at last feeling the pull of a Grit experience, guessing I'll have a lot to learn!
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In reply to The Ivanator:
I have made a point of bothering most rocky parts of the UK, but I can't believe I've never sullied Reiff.
Not done much in Mid Wales, North Devon, Far far N Scotland and Hebrides, Aberdeenshire and Dumfries and Galloway. Or Northumberland, or Clwyd. In fact, thinking about it, I've barely started!
I have made a point of bothering most rocky parts of the UK, but I can't believe I've never sullied Reiff.
Not done much in Mid Wales, North Devon, Far far N Scotland and Hebrides, Aberdeenshire and Dumfries and Galloway. Or Northumberland, or Clwyd. In fact, thinking about it, I've barely started!
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In reply to The Ivanator:
In 14 years of climbing I have never climbed at cloggy!pretty poor I know! Strange to think that there are quality venues such as cloggy only 3/3.5 hours away from me and yet I have climbed all over Europe and Yosemite.I'm also dying to climb at Fairhead and southern Ireland and to many parts of Scotland to begin to list!
In 14 years of climbing I have never climbed at cloggy!pretty poor I know! Strange to think that there are quality venues such as cloggy only 3/3.5 hours away from me and yet I have climbed all over Europe and Yosemite.I'm also dying to climb at Fairhead and southern Ireland and to many parts of Scotland to begin to list!
In reply to The Ivanator:
Never climbed on slate.
Or on Baffin Island.
One of them bothers me more than the other.
Never climbed on slate.
Or on Baffin Island.
One of them bothers me more than the other.
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In reply to The Ivanator:
It's about 10 years since I did any climbing at all (apart from odd and relatively unsatisfying Euro lime-clipping) but in UK terms my big omission is never having even touched grit let alone done any routes on it. A pity as I always had the big love for Torridonian and Northumberland (and Czech/E. German & Kentish) sandstone so I'd probably have liked it.
I've also done very little winter climbing on The Ben, which is a huge void considering I used to live near it when I was going at my best.
It's about 10 years since I did any climbing at all (apart from odd and relatively unsatisfying Euro lime-clipping) but in UK terms my big omission is never having even touched grit let alone done any routes on it. A pity as I always had the big love for Torridonian and Northumberland (and Czech/E. German & Kentish) sandstone so I'd probably have liked it.
I've also done very little winter climbing on The Ben, which is a huge void considering I used to live near it when I was going at my best.
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In reply to The Ivanator:
Nesscliffe, Pontesford Rocks and Llanymynch have always struck me as places I should have been too, but never did,
Chris
Nesscliffe, Pontesford Rocks and Llanymynch have always struck me as places I should have been too, but never did,
Chris
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In reply to The Ivanator:
Scafell. Probably because I live in Scotland and generally only grit my teeth and head south when weather dictates and if Scafell is dry then there will be plenty to do in the Scottish mountains. Nevertheless, a glaring omission, the only major mountain crag I've not climbed on, but actually great to have a brilliant collection of routes of all grades to look forward to. Same was true of Cornwall and Devon until last year's crap summer!
Scafell. Probably because I live in Scotland and generally only grit my teeth and head south when weather dictates and if Scafell is dry then there will be plenty to do in the Scottish mountains. Nevertheless, a glaring omission, the only major mountain crag I've not climbed on, but actually great to have a brilliant collection of routes of all grades to look forward to. Same was true of Cornwall and Devon until last year's crap summer!
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In reply to The Ivanator:
South Pembroke (been to the northern gabbro / sandstone), Gogarth, the dubh loch, pabbay and mingulay.
Quite a poor show really.
South Pembroke (been to the northern gabbro / sandstone), Gogarth, the dubh loch, pabbay and mingulay.
Quite a poor show really.
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In reply to Babika:
High tor is brilliant, but from my experience avoid skylight as its rather loose.
High tor is brilliant, but from my experience avoid skylight as its rather loose.
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In reply to davidbeynon:
I will be in Greenland in July and frustratingly close in relative terms to asgard!
I will be in Greenland in July and frustratingly close in relative terms to asgard!
In reply to The Ivanator:
There's far too much I've not been to... Stanage and the Lakes being significant omissions, but I've also done little in North Wales. I've also never climbed in Scotland, though I'm starting to think about a trip to Pabbay and Mingulay, so hopefully that will be rectified in the next year or two.
Why? I've definitely got a South West and South Wales bias, and sea cliffs do it for me far more anything else. Though I do go to the Peak a few times a year, I've avoided Stanage as it's a (tiny) bit further than Froggatt, Curbar, and the Roaches, and each time I go to those places, I see more routes that I want to do.
There's far too much I've not been to... Stanage and the Lakes being significant omissions, but I've also done little in North Wales. I've also never climbed in Scotland, though I'm starting to think about a trip to Pabbay and Mingulay, so hopefully that will be rectified in the next year or two.
Why? I've definitely got a South West and South Wales bias, and sea cliffs do it for me far more anything else. Though I do go to the Peak a few times a year, I've avoided Stanage as it's a (tiny) bit further than Froggatt, Curbar, and the Roaches, and each time I go to those places, I see more routes that I want to do.
In reply to The Ivanator:
I guess the Sheffield Mafia finally caught up with you then
> So for anyone with a reasonable range of experience share the glaring omissions from your climbing resume. I've managed to climb over 1000 UK routes without ever visiting Stanage ...plans afoot to address this soon.
I guess the Sheffield Mafia finally caught up with you then
In reply to The Ivanator:
The Ben! other than a snowy but not winter mass scramble up Ledge Route. planned it several times, but never quite comes off - and at 7 hours drivel the attempts arent that frequent. Hopefully some time this year!
The Ben! other than a snowy but not winter mass scramble up Ledge Route. planned it several times, but never quite comes off - and at 7 hours drivel the attempts arent that frequent. Hopefully some time this year!
In reply to The Ivanator:
Pembroke (in fact I've never even been to S. Wales).
Pillar Rock
Creag an Dubh-Loch
Ben Eighe
Diabaig
All except Pembroke are places I still desperately want to get to.
Pembroke (in fact I've never even been to S. Wales).
Pillar Rock
Creag an Dubh-Loch
Ben Eighe
Diabaig
All except Pembroke are places I still desperately want to get to.
In reply to jon_gill1:
We were up there a couple of weeks ago. It's fine.
> High tor is brilliant, but from my experience avoid skylight as its rather loose.
We were up there a couple of weeks ago. It's fine.
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In reply to The Ivanator:
Great Zawn, Tintagel Head, Pentire Head, Carn Goula, Lundy, Chatsworth, Lliwedd, The Orme, Gordale Scar, The Cobbler, Garbh Coire (Beinn a'Bhuird), Binnein Shuas, Fuar Tholl, Kilt Rock, Pabbay, Mingulay.
I think I have climbed just about everywhere else in the UK that I'd want to and of the above list I think the only truly embarrassing ones are Chatsworth and Lliwedd .
Great Zawn, Tintagel Head, Pentire Head, Carn Goula, Lundy, Chatsworth, Lliwedd, The Orme, Gordale Scar, The Cobbler, Garbh Coire (Beinn a'Bhuird), Binnein Shuas, Fuar Tholl, Kilt Rock, Pabbay, Mingulay.
I think I have climbed just about everywhere else in the UK that I'd want to and of the above list I think the only truly embarrassing ones are Chatsworth and Lliwedd .
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In reply to davidbeynon:
The former presumably
Personally, I've done over 600 routes, climbed in Europe and New Zealand, and never been to the Lakes or Southern Sandstone. Context is important for the latter; I started in my mid-teens and my parents live 40 minutes away from the place.
> Never climbed on slate.
> Or on Baffin Island.
> One of them bothers me more than the other.
The former presumably
Personally, I've done over 600 routes, climbed in Europe and New Zealand, and never been to the Lakes or Southern Sandstone. Context is important for the latter; I started in my mid-teens and my parents live 40 minutes away from the place.
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In reply to The Ivanator:
I've climbed in the Peak a number of times, but have never managed to climb in The Foundry.
I've climbed in the Peak a number of times, but have never managed to climb in The Foundry.
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In reply to Le Chevalier Mal Fet:
Guessing the tower of loose rock in the groove has gone now then.when I climbed it a couple of years ago I place a wire in a polished slot,gave it a quick tug and the whole lot nearly came out!scared the crap out of me!
Guessing the tower of loose rock in the groove has gone now then.when I climbed it a couple of years ago I place a wire in a polished slot,gave it a quick tug and the whole lot nearly came out!scared the crap out of me!
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In reply to The Ivanator:
1,192 routes logged on my logbook to date, and I have never climbed at Gogarth. Keep getting distracted by a little mountain range on the way there!
1,192 routes logged on my logbook to date, and I have never climbed at Gogarth. Keep getting distracted by a little mountain range on the way there!
In reply to The Ivanator:
Embarrassingly I've never climbed at Cloggy and have yet to visit Pembroke! The former is just a right place, right time thing really and, for Pembroke, it's a long drive and I don't really understand all the logistical stuff about bird bans and range briefings. Must do better!
Embarrassingly I've never climbed at Cloggy and have yet to visit Pembroke! The former is just a right place, right time thing really and, for Pembroke, it's a long drive and I don't really understand all the logistical stuff about bird bans and range briefings. Must do better!
In reply to The Ivanator:
In 25 years, i've never climbed a sport route in my life. And don't intend to
In 25 years, i've never climbed a sport route in my life. And don't intend to
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In reply to Toccata:
Nor have I. Can't imagine I ever will. Doesn't feel like an omission.
> Never been to Font.
Nor have I. Can't imagine I ever will. Doesn't feel like an omission.
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In reply to The Ivanator:
Outside of Scotland Cloggy is my major omission. Plenty in Scotland I've not managed but most keen to rectify is summer rock in the Caingorms
Outside of Scotland Cloggy is my major omission. Plenty in Scotland I've not managed but most keen to rectify is summer rock in the Caingorms
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In reply to The Ivanator:
I can't believe people have never made the pembroke pilgrimage!
I've never climbed in the peak district? (although I have climbed on grit)
I can't believe people have never made the pembroke pilgrimage!
I've never climbed in the peak district? (although I have climbed on grit)
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In reply to The Ivanator:
Scottish mountain crags - weather / midges / too far to go from Birmingham when there's loads more climbing to be done closer to home (whereas in winter I wouldn't think twice about a weekend up in Scotland, unless there's any winter climbing to be done in Snowdonia or the Lakes).
Scottish mountain crags - weather / midges / too far to go from Birmingham when there's loads more climbing to be done closer to home (whereas in winter I wouldn't think twice about a weekend up in Scotland, unless there's any winter climbing to be done in Snowdonia or the Lakes).
In reply to Skyfall:
Loads to do which isn't bird banned and there's no firing at weekends or in August so you can access anywhere other than Tange West which requires a briefing. So that's 4 comprehensive guidebooks' worth of climbing! Get yourself over there.
Loads to do which isn't bird banned and there's no firing at weekends or in August so you can access anywhere other than Tange West which requires a briefing. So that's 4 comprehensive guidebooks' worth of climbing! Get yourself over there.
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In reply to Misha:
Thanks, that's really helpful. Hope you're enjoying/exploiting the old firm
> there's no firing at weekends or in August so you can access anywhere other than Tange West which requires a briefing.
Thanks, that's really helpful. Hope you're enjoying/exploiting the old firm
In reply to The Ivanator:
Cloggy - in getting on for 40 years. I've stood at the bottom of it in the rain, in thick cloud. I've watched it ooze and drip, but I've never done more than touch it. I've seen it from afar on beautiful summer days too.
I've done next to nothing on Lakes' rocks, but quite a lot of winter stuff.
I've never been to Font as a climber - but I've been as a tourist traipsing around the palace.
I've never done a rock route on Ben Nevis (Poldubh doesn't count) or in the Cairngorms.
Not done anything in Torridon (except fly over it in a helicopter at dawn; all pink it was and lovely)
Cloggy - in getting on for 40 years. I've stood at the bottom of it in the rain, in thick cloud. I've watched it ooze and drip, but I've never done more than touch it. I've seen it from afar on beautiful summer days too.
I've done next to nothing on Lakes' rocks, but quite a lot of winter stuff.
I've never been to Font as a climber - but I've been as a tourist traipsing around the palace.
I've never done a rock route on Ben Nevis (Poldubh doesn't count) or in the Cairngorms.
Not done anything in Torridon (except fly over it in a helicopter at dawn; all pink it was and lovely)
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In reply to The Ivanator:
Cloggy.
A glaring omission, hence http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?n=642982
Please help me to rectify the situation...
Lex
Cloggy.
A glaring omission, hence http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?n=642982
Please help me to rectify the situation...
Lex
In reply to lex:
Still not done Point Five Gully, despite about 20 visits to Ben Nevis. I hate queuing so maybe I'll never do it unless in the area midweek or staying in the hut.
Still not done Point Five Gully, despite about 20 visits to Ben Nevis. I hate queuing so maybe I'll never do it unless in the area midweek or staying in the hut.
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In reply to Dave Garnett:
Skye - yes me too. Over 30 years of climbing under my belt, live in the Lakes, have been to other Hebridean islands and lots of Scottish crags, yet I've never set foot on the famous gabbro. It's got to the stage where I'm embarrassed to admit it.
Skye - yes me too. Over 30 years of climbing under my belt, live in the Lakes, have been to other Hebridean islands and lots of Scottish crags, yet I've never set foot on the famous gabbro. It's got to the stage where I'm embarrassed to admit it.
In reply to The Ivanator:
Cloggy, Sca Fell, Pillar - may just have something to do with the walk-ins...
JW
Cloggy, Sca Fell, Pillar - may just have something to do with the walk-ins...
JW
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In reply to The Ivanator:
Scafell. In over 30 years of admittedly sporadic climbing, how have I never climbed on Scafell crags but somehow found time to take in the Twa Hummocks, Striddle Crag and Edmund's Castle? This is something I'd like to fix on my next trip home to Cumbria, at the end of this month.
Scafell. In over 30 years of admittedly sporadic climbing, how have I never climbed on Scafell crags but somehow found time to take in the Twa Hummocks, Striddle Crag and Edmund's Castle? This is something I'd like to fix on my next trip home to Cumbria, at the end of this month.
In reply to The Ivanator:
The Old Man of Hoy.........I used to look at it every day from my window at work for 9 years but just never found the combination of time, partners and weather. Pretty piss poor excuse really. And then I left Scotland.
The Old Man of Hoy.........I used to look at it every day from my window at work for 9 years but just never found the combination of time, partners and weather. Pretty piss poor excuse really. And then I left Scotland.
In reply to Big Ger:
Climb somewhere like Lofoten and you will realise why the peak district isn't the internationally recognised centre for jamming & friction climbing that the locals like to believe it is.
I did remember to log into my trolling account for this didn't I?
Oops
Climb somewhere like Lofoten and you will realise why the peak district isn't the internationally recognised centre for jamming & friction climbing that the locals like to believe it is.
I did remember to log into my trolling account for this didn't I?
Oops
In reply to The Ivanator:
Dinas Cromlech, Cloggy, don't care though, Lakes is better anyway. What's Cenotaph Corner anyway? Just a 35m corner pitch.
Dinas Cromlech, Cloggy, don't care though, Lakes is better anyway. What's Cenotaph Corner anyway? Just a 35m corner pitch.
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In reply to LakesWinter:
Left Wall's poor relation, which is probably Right Wall's, which is probably Lord's..
> Dinas Cromlech, Cloggy, don't care though, Lakes is better anyway. What's Cenotaph Corner anyway? Just a 35m corner pitch.
Left Wall's poor relation, which is probably Right Wall's, which is probably Lord's..
In reply to ianstevens:
That must be the most shocking confession of all on this thread
> I've never been to Southern Sandstone.
That must be the most shocking confession of all on this thread
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In reply to Trangia:
Well not in the grand scheme of things, but given the background of my climbing "career", it should really be there and isn't.
Well not in the grand scheme of things, but given the background of my climbing "career", it should really be there and isn't.
In reply to The Ivanator:
Scrap that I visited cloggy yesterday after 14 years of climbing, I fear it might be a while before I tick the others off!
Scrap that I visited cloggy yesterday after 14 years of climbing, I fear it might be a while before I tick the others off!
In reply to Aztec Bar:
Like you I've never been to or climbed in The Peaks. I don't know anyone who has, and am not really sure where they are?
> The Peaks or Mount Snowdon.
Like you I've never been to or climbed in The Peaks. I don't know anyone who has, and am not really sure where they are?
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In reply to LG-Mark:
You will when you get a bit older! ;oD
> In 25 years, i've never climbed a sport route in my life. And don't intend to
You will when you get a bit older! ;oD
In reply to The Ivanator:
Surprisingly, Cloggy has come up many times on this thread. I feel that I'm another Cloggy neglector as I've only been once (in an approaching 50 year "career") and did a rather overstarred Hard Severe on the right flanking slabby bit. Felt like a cop-out.
Surprisingly, Cloggy has come up many times on this thread. I feel that I'm another Cloggy neglector as I've only been once (in an approaching 50 year "career") and did a rather overstarred Hard Severe on the right flanking slabby bit. Felt like a cop-out.
In reply to Red Rover:
I believe they're even worse. I used to live within easy driving distance (Leicester) but never felt sufficiently tempted. Slawston Bridge was sort of in the way in that direction and that is better than it looks.
Slawston has been visited by many of our stars over the years; Jerry and Johny both mention it in their autobiogs but it was already well known.
> are they as bad as they look?
I believe they're even worse. I used to live within easy driving distance (Leicester) but never felt sufficiently tempted. Slawston Bridge was sort of in the way in that direction and that is better than it looks.
Slawston has been visited by many of our stars over the years; Jerry and Johny both mention it in their autobiogs but it was already well known.
In reply to Red Rover:
Yep. The folly and desperation of youth drove us to visit but even then, we never went back.
Yep. The folly and desperation of youth drove us to visit but even then, we never went back.
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In reply to GrahamD:
Something of an understatement there ...
(I am ashamed to admit to having climbed at Finedon ... more than once.)
Something of an understatement there ...
(I am ashamed to admit to having climbed at Finedon ... more than once.)
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In reply to Wingnut: All this talk of Finedon makes me rue that I never visited it when it was in my locale - even if just to see how bad it was - the description of the routes in the 90's Leics guide doesn't really make sense - I guess you need to relate it to the "crag" to fully understand/appreciate it.
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In reply to GrahamD:
Is Finedon worse than Stannington Ruffs? I bet Finedon is shit but not deathly shit over shit full of other peoples shit.
Is Finedon worse than Stannington Ruffs? I bet Finedon is shit but not deathly shit over shit full of other peoples shit.
In reply to Offwidth:
It is shit because of its total lack of anything interesting there. At least Stannington Ruffs is "interesting"
It is shit because of its total lack of anything interesting there. At least Stannington Ruffs is "interesting"
In reply to The Ivanator:
I've never done a rock route in Scotland. Just too many closer places that are equally brilliant.
More glaringly there are several crags I've been to once, had a great time but not got round to going back...Cloggy, Scafell, the whole of Pembroke.
I've never done a rock route in Scotland. Just too many closer places that are equally brilliant.
More glaringly there are several crags I've been to once, had a great time but not got round to going back...Cloggy, Scafell, the whole of Pembroke.
In reply to The Ivanator:
Ive been climbing in Scotland for 30 years but still never been to Shiegra.
Or Erraid, or Sarclet, or the Bonnaidh Don, or even Earnsheugh.
Ive been climbing in Scotland for 30 years but still never been to Shiegra.
Or Erraid, or Sarclet, or the Bonnaidh Don, or even Earnsheugh.
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