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Says he's not the right person to renegotiate.

In reply to Postmanpat:
please god not boris.

i will think about renouncing atheism.

In reply to Postmanpat:

Inevitable

But who is?

In reply to KevinD:



Or Gove? Holy f*ck, can you imagine.

In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:


Whilst I aint a fan of Gove at least he has some positives. Boris on the other hand....

Most significant bit of that speech is Cameron wont be triggering article 50. Thats for the new PM. So booting it down the line slightly.

In reply to Postmanpat:

Worst prime minister in history? Put party politics first, led the UK into the inevitable break up of two unions, probably caused a huge economic disaster for the UK, and left the nation feeling more divided and bitter than when he took office.

In reply to RyanOsborne:

i think the vote proved UK is divided anyway. Its a shame we had to vote to leave something to truly understand that . The question is does any of this really address why the north east and london are so polarised , i think it doesnt .

In reply to KevinD:


It's worse than that: Boris vs Corbyn at the next election, with the possibility of Trump and Le Pen in the background.

Is the West giving up?

In reply to RyanOsborne:


I wonder if he'll feel bad whilst pruning his roses during his next few months of garden leave.

In reply to kingjam:


Does anyone actually think Johnson, Gove or, for that matter, Farage give a flying **** about the north east?

The sad thing is nothing will change for the better for them.

In reply to Postmanpat:

Very dignified speech I though.

In reply to Postmanpat:
>Says he's not the right person to renegotiate.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the whole idea was to go back to Europe with a bigger stick to aid in negotiating?
I expect if borris or gove got in, the negotiations would go something like "bye, then".

Cameron played it like the fool he is. The back benchers won. The lurch to the right can go unchallenged by the tory party. Borris and Trump, a winning combo.

In reply to Postmanpat:

If only Corbyn would follow suit.

In reply to dread-i:

You don't really believe Boris wanted to leave, do you? I thought it was obvious he was just doing it for personal political gain.

In reply to winhill:

Yes, he didn't even try.

In reply to john arran:

I think his colours have been nailed to the mast for him now. He will have to stand as an arch eurosceptic or loose support from 52% of the voters.

He might not believe 100% in brit exit, but he would bumble and mumble about 'the will of the people'.

In reply to winhill:


He may find things fall his way. Brexit won't suddenly solve the issues of the alienated classes so who do they vote for?

In reply to Postmanpat:

Check out Postmanpat with his silver lining

In reply to Postmanpat:

Cameron announces he'll go by October


Today is like the gift that keeps on giving.

In reply to Princess Bobina:

"If I can't be georgie best I'm taking my ball home"

In reply to winhill:

I like his politics but I detest his ineffectiveness.

Looks like labour party will be voting on Corbyn next week.

In reply to wilkie14c:

Pretty much what my Mum said - he's behaved like a spoilt little brat that didn't get his own way and has flounced off.

In reply to elsewhere:


party or MPs? Problem for Labour is there is a serious split between the two.

In reply to Postmanpat:

Nigel. Or worse.

In reply to Big Ger:


That's the main thing.

In reply to LastBoyScout:

How on earth do you expect Cameron to negotiate for something he didn't want.

Surely it is only right and proper that those persons who wanted out should negotiate the terms for out and beyond.

Or do you honestly think that, having achieved brexit, Johnson, Farage et al should be able to put their feet up and hand the mess to someone else to clear up.

In reply to Postmanpat:
DC-
'Why should I do the hard shit?'

Fair one imo

In reply to fred99:

Agree. In climbing terms, DC has been arguing for getting on the solid, well protected HVS 5b while Boris and Gove have been talking up how amazing the big loose scary E3 would be. And under the circumstances I don't think it's unreasonable for Cameron to turn round and say "okay then, it's your lead."

In reply to Ramblin dave:

I think he did exactly the right thing.

In reply to fred99:




Excuse me? I quoted someone else as an alternative way of stating another poster's view. Neither were my view.

Of course it's not Cameron's job to negotiate the exit - partly because he didn't want it and partly because, arguably, he isn't that good at negotiating with the EU anyway.

The question now seems to be whether anyone who who campaigned for Brexit would be able to get elected to the position of being able to trigger Article 50 - BoJo doesn't currently seem likely to be able to just waltz in and get cracking, no-one seems to have seen Gove, IDS doesn't have the backing and it certainly won't be Farage, for starters.

Even assuming any of them did get that far, would they even actually do it?

In reply to LastBoyScout:

My apologies if you were quoting rather than reiterating.

As for being able to get elected - they should be damn well forced to take over and clean up the mess they've made.
If it all comes up smelling of roses, then they can take the plaudits.
If it comes up smelling of rose manure, then hopefully the same people who voted with them can deal with them when their giros bounce.