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m0unt41n 06 Nov 2016
I was looking for a couple of items but then over the last week noticed how some can double or treble in price (in £1,000s) or end at stupid prices. 1.8m Book case below is MDF with "Walnut finish" which I guess means printed for £2,700
https://www.wayfair.co.uk/183-cm-Bookcase-CP1110-AGEL1119.html

There is a couple of things I like at a cheap prices but it all seems completely untrustworthy.

Is the site a scam or if not then why the crazy prices?
 Indy 06 Nov 2016
In reply to m0unt41n:

Walnut is an expensive wood. I have a solid walnut desk from Heals which from memory wasn't cheap but your example of MDF with walnut vanneer does seem expensive. Wonder if your example is for a 'designer' product? Quality t-shirt £40, Armani t-shirt £120..... sort of thing
 Dax H 06 Nov 2016
In reply to m0unt41n:

It's probably a walnut veneer rather than a print but the price is still taking the piss.
But people obviously buy it otherwise they wouldn't be selling it at that price.
Phil Payne 06 Nov 2016
In reply to m0unt41n:

Looks like expensive junk. Do people really pay that sort of price for flat pack mdf furniture?
m0unt41n 06 Nov 2016
In reply to Indy:

Wayfair state: Wood Species: MDF

Havent seen that growing round here.
In reply to m0unt41n:

Odd, because the 'Angel Cerda' chairs aren't a stupid price, and i'd suspect a chair is harder to make than a bookcase.
 Indy 06 Nov 2016
In reply to m0unt41n:

Can't comment of this companies marketing practices but the prices don't seem outrageous.
m0unt41n 06 Nov 2016
In reply to Indy:
> Can't comment of this companies marketing practices but the prices don't seem outrageous

£2,700 for an MDF bookcase seems outrageous to me.


And this was £295 yesterday
https://www.wayfair.co.uk/Console-Table-1276-AGEL1242.html
now it is £970
Same with a lot of the items, suddenly double or treble in price.



Lusk 06 Nov 2016
In reply to m0unt41n:

> And this was £295 yesterday
> https://www.wayfair.co.uk/Console-Table-1276-AGEL1242.html
> now it is £970

> Same with a lot of the items, suddenly double or treble in price.

Brexit obviously!
 Indy 06 Nov 2016
In reply to m0unt41n:

Again can't comment on this companies pricing policies but you definitely have some sort of issue with MDF..... maybe you'd like to explain?
 Babika 06 Nov 2016
In reply to m0unt41n:

Isn't it just so the company can have a mega sale?

By law the goods have to actually been for sale at the higher price over a certain period. You've obviously just found a couple of items in this standstill period, with no intention of being sold.
Removed User 07 Nov 2016
In reply to m0unt41n:

being a pro cabinet maker, that price is a complete joke on any level-design, materials, construction, finish-should retail
at about 600 quid tops (and that is taking the piss somewhat, too)
m0unt41n 07 Nov 2016
In reply to Indy:

At £270 in MDF it would be good.
At £2,700 in MDF it is a joke particular as the "walnut" is printed paper
 Indy 07 Nov 2016
In reply to m0unt41n:

> At £270 in MDF it would be good.

> At £2,700 in MDF it is a joke particular as the "walnut" is printed paper

We have a Smallbone kitchen which includes some MDF. Can't break down the kitchen cost into individual cabinets but knowing how much it cost in its entirety £270 wouldn't have paid for a single kitchen cabinate door.

What makes you think that the veneer is paper?
 Fraser 07 Nov 2016
In reply to Indy:
> Again can't comment on this companies pricing policies but you definitely have some sort of issue with MDF..... maybe you'd like to explain?

I seem to recall reading that during the original manufacturing process and subsequently working with the product, the particles created, if inhaled, are very bad for you. I think its use is banned in the US for this reason.

Edit: a quick Google brought up this - https://www.theguardian.com/uk/1997/sep/21/antonybarnett.theobserver
Post edited at 07:31
 Fraser 07 Nov 2016
In reply to Indy:

> What makes you think that the veneer is paper?

I think he means the paper substrate, which flexible veneer can sometimes have.

 Indy 07 Nov 2016
In reply to Fraser:

MDF is most certainly NOT banned in the US..... I'm guessing that as you link to a story that's 10 years old that maybe a problem was found that has now been addressed. Bit like BPA in water bottles.
 Indy 07 Nov 2016
In reply to Fraser:

Sorry not an expert or marketing man for MDF so have no idea how it's made but the reason it's used even in top end furniture is that it's very stable. Wood tends over time to dry out and shrink or suck in moisture and expand or both.
 Fraser 07 Nov 2016
In reply to Indy:

No problem, I like using the stuff myself! You're right about it NOT being banned, that story seems to have been no more than an urban myth so my apologies for perpetuating it! There's still the whole urea formaldehyde issue I suppose, but that seems to be covered now by limiting reduced amounts in manufacture. But does mdf not warp badly when it becomes wet?
 Indy 07 Nov 2016
In reply to Fraser:

>But does mdf not warp badly when it becomes wet?

I guess so but the thing is not to get it wet in the first place. MDF is more environmentally stable in general use than wood which is why it's used.
m0unt41n 07 Nov 2016
In reply to m0unt41n:
I guess that maybe the problem is that their data input is not very reliable:

https://www.wayfair.co.uk/Popham-Coffee-Table-CT-17-DDES1000.html
decimal point in the wrong place?

or:
https://www.wayfair.co.uk/FIAM-ITALIA-Atlas-Coffee-Table-Atlas-050-IAM1055....
 Bulls Crack 07 Nov 2016
In reply to m0unt41n:

Buy a nice antique one - relatively cheap, probably better made and often look better!
m0unt41n 08 Nov 2016
In reply to Bulls Crack:

That's true
 marsbar 08 Nov 2016
In reply to m0unt41n:

http://www.quatropi.com/display-cabinet-shelving-unit-shelves-walnut-glass-...

I haven't used this company, but they have a real life showroom.
m0unt41n 08 Nov 2016
In reply to marsbar:

Great, thanks for that.
 marsbar 08 Nov 2016
In reply to m0unt41n:

Took my mind off the insomnia for a bit!
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