UKC

In reply to Mark Collins:

Urgh, a dirty offwidth surround by prickly sea cliff pubes- if ever a route was to be named after Mrs Num Num.

In reply to Mark Collins:

What's the route?

In reply to Jon Read:

Sorry, posted wrong link earlier:
Sea Horse (HVS 5b)

In reply to DannyC:

Haha that's me in there.

To the OP, it's not starred because it's flippin nasty!

Very subjective sort of enjoyment from this monster.

It's a brilliant line.

In reply to Tom Last:
There are some exceptional routes at Chair ladder though, getting stars is tough against that sort of competition. That said, Seahorse does get one star in my most recent CC guide.

The gradings can also be competitive down there. I remember doing West Face Direct when it was given E1!

In reply to Tom Last: the real worry is that you could see what it looked like, and then you still must have thought "I fancy that"

In reply to Mark Collins:

The climber appears to have a rack of large cams but has decided against placing any :-0

In reply to Michael Hood:

A sure indicator of having spent too much time at the crag

In reply to Mark Collins:

It looks like the sort of route which shouldn't get any stars. Don't get me wrong, it looks good!

In reply to Mark Collins:

It is starred in the definitive although I can't remember how many. It is also very traditionally graded - it is about the same difficulty as Elder Crack and I am a wide crack specialist.

In reply to Tubs:

Perversely, now I want to do it

In reply to Kafoozalem:

I should say that it also brilliant if you like that kind of thing.

In reply to Mark Collins:

Because for some people it would be 5 stars and for some people it's definitely minus 5 stars - so no stars?

Wally

In reply to Tom Last:

Since when did nastiness in terms of thrutch effort detract from star ratings (unless you mean filthy and shitty)? A line like that if the climbing is good for its style should maybe be 2 stars.

In reply to Kafoozalem:

You should definitely get on it Pete. Classic, good fun and tough!

It's possible Pete G. has given it more stars in the new guide, I'll ask him.

In reply to Offwidth:

I think no stars fits a route like this better. One star looks less good somehow!

In reply to Michael Gordon:

Ah... John Cox logic (The Vice should stay at HVS as its way too hard to be E1)! In that case it should be 3 stars so tick list fetishists get their fair share of offwidth practice

In reply to Offwidth:

I would definitely go with your suggestion of two stars for this. It also needs an upgrade, probably to E2.

In reply to Tom Last:


Fixed that for you .

In reply to Mark Collins:

I've done it. I remember it was quite good - possibly a bit hard for HVS. It had one star in the book I was using at the time CC 2000.
Martin

In reply to Mark Collins:

A good route Sea Horse and are other routes within Ash Can Gully especially when the sea conditions are not favorable along the rest of the cliff. Many off-widths within the West Penwith area are under-starred in my view, Super Jam (E5) at Sennen being within the Wideboyz top ten off-widths of the country I believe and only getting two stars within my CC guide. Others are Split Minds (E1) at Lands End its first pitch a classic off-width of smooth sea washed granite of perfect granite thrutching, Jack Yer Body (E4) at Logan Rock also comes to mind that is also a superb off-width with no stars rating.

In reply to Toerag:

Hahaha, I'll take that