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subtle on 23 Nov 2016
I see The Donald is now aligning himself with the MCoS and their opposition to windfarms in Scotland http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-38069605

Unlikely bedfellows, just wait until Farage is in there as well - perhaps an article about them in the next MCoS magazine?
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wercat on 23 Nov 2016
In reply to subtle:

Perhaps Trump is going to suggest that Farage would serve well as the US's Sturgeon for Scotland
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marsbar - on 23 Nov 2016
In reply to subtle:

Do offshore wind farms spoil the view of his golf course?
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marsbar - on 23 Nov 2016
In reply to subtle:

I thought Mocs were opposed to land based wind farms in areas of beauty. Offshore wind farms are less of an issue?
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wercat on 23 Nov 2016
In reply to subtle:

are any of the structures he's built in Scotland climbable?
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graeme jackson - on 23 Nov 2016
In reply to wercat:

> are any of the structures he's built in Scotland climbable?

he has built a small hill between his golf course and his neighbours. You could always climb that..

http://aberdeenvoice.com/2013/01/menie-estate-no-3-love-thy-neighbour-trump-style/
andyjohnson0 - on 23 Nov 2016
In reply to subtle:

From http://www.mountaineering.scot/campaigns/protecting-our-mountains/latest-developments

"Anti-wind? Anti-progress? No.

We support renewable energy generation and we support economic development for Scotland's rural, upland areas, but it must be sustainable. Like our many campaign partners, we want the Scottish Government to safeguard what makes our mountain landscapes special and update Scotland's planning laws to give definitive protection for ‘wild land’ (as identified by their own conservation body, Scottish Natural Heritage)."
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wintertree - on 23 Nov 2016
In reply to subtle:

I've been coming round to this opposing wind farms business. Perhaps

Climate change might dry the highlands right out, kill of the midges and perhaps create some nice expansive desert landscapes.

Not so good for golf courses though.
Jimbo C - on 23 Nov 2016
In reply to subtle:

Perhaps he would prefer to see fracking rigs instead.
Paul Hy - on 23 Nov 2016
In reply to subtle:

he's a fecking NIMBY.
GrahamD - on 23 Nov 2016
In reply to wintertree:

A warmer climate means wetter weather for the UK.
brianjcooper on 23 Nov 2016
In reply to marsbar:
'Do offshore wind farms spoil the view of his golf course?'

That's been his argument all along. He doesn't care about the environment, as he displayed when he dug up the sensitive coastline to build his golf course in Aberdeenshire.
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colinakmc - on 23 Nov 2016
In reply to marsbar:

Do offshore wind farms spoil the view of his golf course?

Basically, yes - this was one of the bits of bad behaviour we got when Trump started his new project in Aberdeenshire (remember, when Wee Eck Salmond rolled over for him in an imitation of TOny Blair's adulation of very rich people, and overturned Aberdeenshire Council's planning refusal).

I'm waiting for him to send a carrier over to bomb the offending windfarms in January....

Neil Williams - on 23 Nov 2016
In reply to subtle:
Why does the MCoS oppose windfarms? That could well be a killer on joining if I was in Scotland - I am very much in favour of them.

The BMC doesn't take the same line, does it?
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Doug on 23 Nov 2016
In reply to colinakmc:

wasn't it wee Jack McConnell "rolling" ?
colinakmc - on 23 Nov 2016
In reply to Doug:
Wee Jack might have started it,- I can't remember- but Eck definitely continued, trying to be trumps best friend. A sort of Mexican roll, if you like.....
OMR - on 24 Nov 2016
In reply to Neil Williams:

The MCofS (now called Mountaineering Scotland) doesn't oppose wind farms per se, just those which are inappropriately sited. See http://www.mountaineering.scot/assets/contentfiles/pdf/Respecting-Scotland%27s-Mountains.pdf
And, for a more recent update on the effect of inappropriately-sited wind farms, this - http://www.mountaineering.scot/assets/contentfiles/pdf/Wind-farms-and-mountaineering-behaviour-2016....
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Ian W - on 24 Nov 2016
In reply to Neil Williams:

> Why does the MCoS oppose windfarms? That could well be a killer on joining if I was in Scotland - I am very much in favour of them.

> The BMC doesn't take the same line, does it?

The BMC's line is basically the same as the MCofS. No problem with windfarms per se, just inappropriately sited ones.

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