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Anyone got them? Is the process painful(other than on the wallet)?
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In reply to FesteringSore:
More painful than brushing your teeth which would have ment not needing implants.... but there you go
More painful than brushing your teeth which would have ment not needing implants.... but there you go
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In reply to Indy:
If only life was that straight forward - besides which you have no knowledge as to why I am now in the situation of possibly needing them. A realistic response would have been appreciated
> More painful than brushing your teeth which would have ment not needing implants.... but there you go
If only life was that straight forward - besides which you have no knowledge as to why I am now in the situation of possibly needing them. A realistic response would have been appreciated
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In reply to FesteringSore: I had one put in last year
- no pain whatsoever. After the initial consultation and scan it took no more than 20 minutes to fit the titanium post - i honestly didn't feel any pain at all.
- no pain whatsoever. After the initial consultation and scan it took no more than 20 minutes to fit the titanium post - i honestly didn't feel any pain at all.
In reply to FesteringSore:
My wife's lad had them after years of faffing with alternatives. Really expensive at a good dentist but he took it stoically. Money well spent and he didn't mention too much pain (but he's not one to whinge). Two front teeth knocked out as a kid.
My wife's lad had them after years of faffing with alternatives. Really expensive at a good dentist but he took it stoically. Money well spent and he didn't mention too much pain (but he's not one to whinge). Two front teeth knocked out as a kid.
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In reply to FesteringSore:
I had several done at once. It wasn't painful but a bit traumatic. Bone grafting also had to be done, and that's common. I was told that the ones done on the lower jaw were quite close to the nerve so the anaesthetic dose had to be small so I could indicate if the nerve was being damaged. But it wasn't actually painful, maybe due to the skill of the dentist. I drove home over Drumochter Pass in heavy rain, and that was a mistake in retrospect.
I had several done at once. It wasn't painful but a bit traumatic. Bone grafting also had to be done, and that's common. I was told that the ones done on the lower jaw were quite close to the nerve so the anaesthetic dose had to be small so I could indicate if the nerve was being damaged. But it wasn't actually painful, maybe due to the skill of the dentist. I drove home over Drumochter Pass in heavy rain, and that was a mistake in retrospect.
In reply to FesteringSore:
I'm thinking of having one put in, and have been told that they hurt less than having teeth pulled. If teeth being pulled is lower down on the scale than the 'argh' of bad tooth ache, I've only ever found teeth being pulled generally unpleasant rather than awful - perhaps I have good dentists, implants are meant to be less painful again.
Not much help.
I'm thinking of having one put in, and have been told that they hurt less than having teeth pulled. If teeth being pulled is lower down on the scale than the 'argh' of bad tooth ache, I've only ever found teeth being pulled generally unpleasant rather than awful - perhaps I have good dentists, implants are meant to be less painful again.
Not much help.
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In reply to johnt & hang_about:
Thanks for that. Last time I went to the dentist, about two months ago, he reckoned it would feel no worse than having a tooth drilled.
My problem is that, for various reasons, I now have to wear a full lower denture. It's a bugger to eat properly and I understand that you can have what they call an implant stabilised denture where the denture "clips" on to two implants.
I have to say that, having had extractions recently, even that is a far less painful experience than it used to be.
Thanks for that. Last time I went to the dentist, about two months ago, he reckoned it would feel no worse than having a tooth drilled.
My problem is that, for various reasons, I now have to wear a full lower denture. It's a bugger to eat properly and I understand that you can have what they call an implant stabilised denture where the denture "clips" on to two implants.
I have to say that, having had extractions recently, even that is a far less painful experience than it used to be.
Post edited at 19:24
In reply to FesteringSore:
yup the only way to go imo
as I said, entirely subjective
> My problem is that, for various reasons, I now have to wear a full lower denture. It's a bugger to eat properly and I understand that you can have what they call an implant stabilised denture where the denture "clips" on to two implants.
yup the only way to go imo
> I have to say that, having had extractions recently, even that is a far less painful experience than it used to be.
as I said, entirely subjective
In reply to Andy Nisbet:
My wife had several done at once a few years ago after endless problems with a bridge that kept coming loose, she says it was a fairly traumatic experience but well worth it, she has had no problems at all since.
Speak to several dentists before you decide who to go for, I think you have to have confidence in them, she travelled over to Manchester area to have them done and although it was eye wateringly expensive it was money well spent.
> I had several done at once. It wasn't painful but a bit traumatic. Bone grafting also had to be done, and that's common. I was told that the ones done on the lower jaw were quite close to the nerve so the anaesthetic dose had to be small so I could indicate if the nerve was being damaged. But it wasn't actually painful, maybe due to the skill of the dentist. I drove home over Drumochter Pass in heavy rain, and that was a mistake in retrospect.
My wife had several done at once a few years ago after endless problems with a bridge that kept coming loose, she says it was a fairly traumatic experience but well worth it, she has had no problems at all since.
Speak to several dentists before you decide who to go for, I think you have to have confidence in them, she travelled over to Manchester area to have them done and although it was eye wateringly expensive it was money well spent.
In reply to Andrew Lodge:
What roughly is the cost if you don't mind me asking? Having broken a tooth recently, I've been told last week it would be approx £2300 including root removal to have an implant; also six months for the work to be done is that the case?
> although it was eye wateringly expensive it was money well spent
What roughly is the cost if you don't mind me asking? Having broken a tooth recently, I've been told last week it would be approx £2300 including root removal to have an implant; also six months for the work to be done is that the case?
In reply to Climbing Pieman:
I've been quoted similar costs.
> What roughly is the cost if you don't mind me asking? Having broken a tooth recently, I've been told last week it would be approx £2300 including root removal to have an implant; also six months for the work to be done is that the case?
I've been quoted similar costs.
In reply to Climbing Pieman: It cost me £2100 for one implant (lower back tooth) - expensive, but it feels great.
In reply to Timmd: After the initial consultation and MRI scan - 20 minutes to fit the post, wait 3 months for it to 'bed in' within the jawbone then a casting to get the new tooth made and fitted 2 weeks later. Return after 4 weeks for a check up / final tightening. A review in 12 months time and thereafter every 3 years...
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In reply to Climbing Pieman:
It was north of £7k to have 4 done
> What roughly is the cost if you don't mind me asking? Having broken a tooth recently, I've been told last week it would be approx £2300 including root removal to have an implant; also six months for the work to be done is that the case?
It was north of £7k to have 4 done
In reply to Timmd and others:
Thanks. Cost seems the about the norm, then.
johnt - my dentist is saying 3 months after extraction of root to allow bone to recover, so 6 mths sounds right. Thanks.
Whilst waiting for gum to heal following the break, it will give me time to decide whether to proceed or just live with the gap if I can. Really not sure what to do yet.
Thanks. Cost seems the about the norm, then.
johnt - my dentist is saying 3 months after extraction of root to allow bone to recover, so 6 mths sounds right. Thanks.
Whilst waiting for gum to heal following the break, it will give me time to decide whether to proceed or just live with the gap if I can. Really not sure what to do yet.
In reply to FesteringSore:
Be aware, they don't always work.
Apparently it depends on the quality of the bone. Only work on the less trashed side of my jaw. Brilliant when they do work.
Be aware, they don't always work.
Apparently it depends on the quality of the bone. Only work on the less trashed side of my jaw. Brilliant when they do work.
In reply to Indy:
Sometimes you need them after a high velocity impact.
> More painful than brushing your teeth which would have ment not needing implants.... but there you go
Sometimes you need them after a high velocity impact.
In reply to FesteringSore: yes and no, less than you'd expect.
I knockeed my front teeth out crashing a bicycle.
I knockeed my front teeth out crashing a bicycle.
In reply to rogerwebb:
The OP does come across as a person that would suffer high velocity impacts i.e. of the fist/mouth variety.
All's fair in love and war eh FS!
> Sometimes you need them after a high velocity impact.
The OP does come across as a person that would suffer high velocity impacts i.e. of the fist/mouth variety.
All's fair in love and war eh FS!
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In reply to FesteringSore:
I have no experience of implants other that one a friend had 20 years ago that was loose and for years she could pull the tooth with pin out, that was 20 plus years ago though.
The interesting part of this thread is the pain side with reference to pulling teeth.
I find drilling to be truly awful and I can't stand to have it done, even cleaning is massively painful but extraction is a doddle and have never bothered me one bit.
Having seen the prices that people are talking about on here when the time comes I think I will say goodbye rather than try fix.
I have no experience of implants other that one a friend had 20 years ago that was loose and for years she could pull the tooth with pin out, that was 20 plus years ago though.
The interesting part of this thread is the pain side with reference to pulling teeth.
I find drilling to be truly awful and I can't stand to have it done, even cleaning is massively painful but extraction is a doddle and have never bothered me one bit.
Having seen the prices that people are talking about on here when the time comes I think I will say goodbye rather than try fix.
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In reply to FesteringSore:
As others have said it's usually fine pain wise but can be traumatic as you're having a surgical procedure- sedation can be an option but you would need to speak to the dentist placing the implants. This will probably cost more (not always though) as they may have to get somebody sedation qualified in to administer but this will depend on the practice.
Regarding time scales some implants are suitable for immediate loading and use after placement but generally speaking it will be several months worth of treatment as it's dependant on your body healing and the titanium 'screw' integrating with your jaw bone. Smoking and some systemic health problems can make a total mess of this process which the dentist should discuss with you before any decisions are made.
HTH
As others have said it's usually fine pain wise but can be traumatic as you're having a surgical procedure- sedation can be an option but you would need to speak to the dentist placing the implants. This will probably cost more (not always though) as they may have to get somebody sedation qualified in to administer but this will depend on the practice.
Regarding time scales some implants are suitable for immediate loading and use after placement but generally speaking it will be several months worth of treatment as it's dependant on your body healing and the titanium 'screw' integrating with your jaw bone. Smoking and some systemic health problems can make a total mess of this process which the dentist should discuss with you before any decisions are made.
HTH
In reply to captain paranoia:
Bum licking idiot
> That's hardly fair; Indy's an extraordinary UKC idiot.
Bum licking idiot
In reply to FesteringSore:
I now have 4. Money well spent. What wasn't money well spent was my previous dentist (who wasn't the practice member who did implants) advising me against and charging me £500 for a plate of which he really didn't explain the demerits. I quickly threw that away and moved to another practice where the implants are done by the top man in the area who spends much of his time as a maxilla-something surgeon in the local hospital. Having the wrecked teeth pulled was worse than the implant work. I think a combination of modern anaesthetics and an expert dentist means pain is minimised. I don't know how you find out how competent/experienced your dentist is. I just struck lucky.
I now have 4. Money well spent. What wasn't money well spent was my previous dentist (who wasn't the practice member who did implants) advising me against and charging me £500 for a plate of which he really didn't explain the demerits. I quickly threw that away and moved to another practice where the implants are done by the top man in the area who spends much of his time as a maxilla-something surgeon in the local hospital. Having the wrecked teeth pulled was worse than the implant work. I think a combination of modern anaesthetics and an expert dentist means pain is minimised. I don't know how you find out how competent/experienced your dentist is. I just struck lucky.
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In reply to Rog Wilko:
Funny, I know its a very personal thing but I've carefully questioned a number of people who wear plates and they have generally said they don't mind using them. However, a lot of good feedback on here re implants I agree.
Funny, I know its a very personal thing but I've carefully questioned a number of people who wear plates and they have generally said they don't mind using them. However, a lot of good feedback on here re implants I agree.
In reply to FesteringSore:
I had two done in Budapest. The quality of the equipment and dentists in the dental clinic was exceptional. It cost about the same including hotels, flights etc as the cost of one implant in the UK. I would go again without hesitation. The only pain was the first injection and after that it was really straight forward - absolutely nothing to worry about.
I had two done in Budapest. The quality of the equipment and dentists in the dental clinic was exceptional. It cost about the same including hotels, flights etc as the cost of one implant in the UK. I would go again without hesitation. The only pain was the first injection and after that it was really straight forward - absolutely nothing to worry about.
In reply to Rog Wilko:
That is the easy part for me, I'm lucky in that a friend is partner in 2 harley St practices, he's also the editor of a dentistry magazine who give very prestigious awards for those dental surgeons who excel in their specialism.
The hard part for me is the cost, even though mentioning my friends name to those he recommended would get me the work done at "cost" it's still incredibly expensive.
> I don't know how you find out how competent/experienced your dentist is. I just struck lucky.
That is the easy part for me, I'm lucky in that a friend is partner in 2 harley St practices, he's also the editor of a dentistry magazine who give very prestigious awards for those dental surgeons who excel in their specialism.
The hard part for me is the cost, even though mentioning my friends name to those he recommended would get me the work done at "cost" it's still incredibly expensive.
In reply to FesteringSore:
Slightly off topic but is cleaning less important with implants? Its common for bedbound, elderly people in care homes to have rotting, infected teeth and for dental treatment, ie extractions, to be difficult to arrange. Would having dental implants when younger prevent continual tooth pain towards the end of life, albeit at considerable expense?
Incidentally one of my wife's relatives was terrified of dentists and decided it was better to have all her teeth extracted when she was young and use dentures for the rest of her life....a somewhat extreme but very practical step!
Slightly off topic but is cleaning less important with implants? Its common for bedbound, elderly people in care homes to have rotting, infected teeth and for dental treatment, ie extractions, to be difficult to arrange. Would having dental implants when younger prevent continual tooth pain towards the end of life, albeit at considerable expense?
Incidentally one of my wife's relatives was terrified of dentists and decided it was better to have all her teeth extracted when she was young and use dentures for the rest of her life....a somewhat extreme but very practical step!
In reply to oldie:
I've been told that cleaning is just as important. And because implants have more gaps for food to stick, it's actually more important.
I've been told that cleaning is just as important. And because implants have more gaps for food to stick, it's actually more important.
In reply to Phil1919:
Two visits, first for the implants then second four months later for crown manufacture and fitting. The place I went to manufacture the crowns on site using their own technicians - Kreativ Dental. I even went to a local bouldering gym as well.
Two visits, first for the implants then second four months later for crown manufacture and fitting. The place I went to manufacture the crowns on site using their own technicians - Kreativ Dental. I even went to a local bouldering gym as well.
In reply to oldie:
Unfortunately it's actually more (as in WAAAAAAAY more) important to keep implants clean- especially if the patient has lost teeth due to gum disease. Obviously there's no risk of decay as its titanium and porcelain so there's nothing to rot but what can (and often does) happen if the patient isn't meticulous with their oral hygiene is something called periimplantitis- plaque building up around the gum margin causes swelling which then often progresses to the bone around the implant breaking down-it's basically gum disease around an implant.
With natural teeth this takes years before there's an issue but with an implant it can be a matter of months before you're looking at catastrophic bone loss and a failed implant.
> Slightly off topic but is cleaning less important with implants? Its common for bedbound, elderly people in care homes to have rotting, infected teeth and for dental treatment, ie extractions, to be difficult to arrange. Would having dental implants when younger prevent continual tooth pain towards the end of life, albeit at considerable expense?
> Incidentally one of my wife's relatives was terrified of dentists and decided it was better to have all her teeth extracted when she was young and use dentures for the rest of her life....a somewhat extreme but very practical step!
Unfortunately it's actually more (as in WAAAAAAAY more) important to keep implants clean- especially if the patient has lost teeth due to gum disease. Obviously there's no risk of decay as its titanium and porcelain so there's nothing to rot but what can (and often does) happen if the patient isn't meticulous with their oral hygiene is something called periimplantitis- plaque building up around the gum margin causes swelling which then often progresses to the bone around the implant breaking down-it's basically gum disease around an implant.
With natural teeth this takes years before there's an issue but with an implant it can be a matter of months before you're looking at catastrophic bone loss and a failed implant.
In reply to FesteringSore:
The more you spend on your teeth, the better they will be with a quality dentist.
You get what you pay for.
A good idea to fill those unfortunate gaps.
The more you spend on your teeth, the better they will be with a quality dentist.
You get what you pay for.
A good idea to fill those unfortunate gaps.
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