In reply to fil-p:
> (In reply to Redsetter) I was one of the guys who set up the tooling at hodge. It's places like hodge, Masson Lees and white goods that will help stop things like millstone happening again. With proper tooling venues being developed people shouldn't need to scratch rock elsewhere. Ok you'll get some numpty that will. What would you rather have, dedicated areas or some people taking chances on rock routes. Or is it that you wish tooling didn't happen at all, which is a shame as its following is growing in the uk.
What he said ... ^
We chose White goods for one very good reason ..its a shite hole, well it was but we are slowly cleaning it up so I guess its working well for the area,the rock is still of poor quality though and not likely to be given any attention by rock climbers ... I should know I am one of those too.. odd I know !
So through educating new people into the niche that is Drytooling we hope to stop the likes of "Cal the milstone around our neck" trashing ours and your rock routes.
As for the comment on Ice climbing and it not developing your skills ... once you have hung upside down by an axe on matchstick edges for most of a route only then will you know how much it trains your ability to use a tool, your core and your head. Everything is a slab once you have climbed at WG, Masson,Newtyle or the works..
pick up an axe and try it!
we are not all richard cranuims honest