Count's Crack** VS 4c
[Are you sure this was a good idea?, 4 kb]12m. Gain the crack in the south-facing side wall from the right by a short traverse out of the corner along the horizontal break. Once entered it gives classic jamming. A Direct Start is HVS 5c and a Left-hand Finish is a worthwhile HVS 5a. © ROCKFAX
FA. Eric Byne 1932-33

Ticklists: Stanage Routes Graded List, Eastern Grit Jamming, Stanage 100 VD - VS, Stanage VS Challenge (1989 Guide), Peak Gritstone S-HVS **+, Stanage for Crack Apprentices.

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This climb is in 212 logbooks, and on 13 wishlists.

Hidden - Lead RP - 21/Sep/14

vanderz - Lead O/S - 04/Sep/14 with patrick dawson

robblowen - Lead O/S - 31/Aug/14 with Jonny

ashtond6 - 2nd O/S - 31/Aug/14

Rob had a left hand jamming glove,so we used it! Ha ha. Great route!
mike bridges - 2nd O/S - 30/Aug/14 with Robert Bridges

Hidden - Lead - 24/Aug/14

Boy - Solo - 19/Aug/14

Great route, gnarly start. Section after the traverse is hard unless you have outrageously large hands.
DBoothroyd - Lead dog - 17/Aug/14 with Joe Mortimer, Nathan Magnall

namagnall - 2nd - 17/Aug/14

I don't like this climb! Am a small chap with small hands, and this is a good route for big people with big hands. Don't plan on leading this....ever.
djones66 - 2nd O/S - 09/Aug/14 with Stve mc D

Joris.Roulleau - 2nd β - 21/Jun/14 with Dan Metcalfe

dannyboy83 - Solo O/S - 06/Jun/14

FlavioL1989 - Lead dog - 25/May/14 with Jamie Everitt

Rest in the crack.
Jamie Everitt - 2nd dog - 25/May/14 with Flavio Don Liyanage

marshallb93 - Lead O/S - 18/Apr/14

Hidden - 2nd - 13/Apr/14

Palmer - Lead β - 30/Mar/14 with tim higgins

Crack above horizontal break was too off width for me with my 'limestone' jamming ability. Came down to be told the 'secret', there is a convenient pocket located outside the crack. Back next time
atthedropofahat - Lead dnf - 30/Mar/14

soph - 2nd - 09/Mar/14 with Megan Freeth

Bril fun climbing
Andy Peak 1 - Lead - 03/Mar/14 with phill ukc

Hidden - 2nd - 2014

diret start, normal finish. fell twice begining
Lotoni - Lead - Dec/13 with kuz

Matt Cooke - Lead O/S - 30/Nov/13 with Scott, Sam Taylor

scott452 - 2nd - 30/Nov/13 with Sam Taylor, Matt Cooke

georgenvk - Lead dnf - 10/Nov/13

Hidden - Lead dog - 29/Sep/13

dr_botnik - Lead rpt - 10/Sep/13 with Mackie

Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/Aug/13

A bit of a culture shock, I haven't climbed on grit for a year.
caradoc - Lead O/S - 25/May/13 with Becky

So windy I couldn't get established.
Phil Layton - Lead dnf - 11/May/13 with Phil Laxton

Rob Greenwood - UKC - Lead - May/13 with Benno Wagner

2nd earlier in the evening also with Richard
Graeme Hammond - Solo rpt - 24/Apr/13

hotfeet - Lead - 20/Apr/13 with Mark MacDonald

Enjoyed this one
Blue68 - 2nd O/S - 20/Apr/13 with Alan Mountford

Hidden - 2nd dog - 2013

papashango - Lead - 14/Oct/12 with Stu

dr_botnik - 2nd O/S - 08/Oct/12 with Joe, Graham

AlexRenshaw - 2nd - 06/Oct/12 with Tim Raffle, Mike Dawes

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/Sep/12

MikeLeeds - 2nd O/S - 08/Sep/12 with John McMahon

RichardMc - Lead O/S - 08/Sep/12 with Dave Langmead

Alex@home - 2nd O/S - 05/Sep/12 with Tony Moody

vs 4c. i started this roite got about half way. lw left first piece of gear in and carried on up the route. superb route.
gritstone ryan - 2nd - 12/Aug/12

LeeWithers1987 - Lead - Aug/12

jshields - Lead - 29/Jul/12 with Ruth Gordon

Jones_d - 2nd O/S - 29/Jul/12 with Jon Harrison

DaveB61 - 2nd - 29/Jul/12 with Mike Dowsett

MikeDowsett - Lead - 29/Jul/12 with Dave Bankart, John Harrison

max_chan - 2nd O/S - 15/Jul/12 with Steve Carty

Hidden - AltLd rpt - 15/Jul/12

Ben Wolstenholme - Jul/12

Most of the jamming is avoidable.
will_benfold - Lead O/S - 10/Jun/12 with Caroline Culwick

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 10/Jun/12

Hidden - 2nd - 22/May/12

chrisbussell - Lead - 22/May/12 with Tim O'Neill

Helen Gibson - Lead - 22/May/12

full on from start, but if you trust the jams it all works.
nigel pearson - Lead O/S - 20/May/12 with Robin

Hidden - 2nd - 12/May/12

pie_eater_pete - Lead O/S - 30/Apr/12

Kirill - Lead O/S - 01/Apr/12 with Charles Moreton

cem - 2nd rpt - 01/Apr/12 with Kirill Spiridonov

Hidden - Lead O/S - Mar/12

Sean Kelly - 2012

adie84 - 2012

Hidden - 2nd - 2012

Hidden - Lead - 2012

mark20 - 2nd O/S - 19/Nov/11

bigdrew - Lead O/S - 19/Nov/11 with Mark R

Hidden - Solo O/S - 30/Oct/11

Did the direct start. Climbs far better than it looks.
Alex Winter - 2nd O/S - 16/Sep/11 with Doug

chrism225 - Lead O/S - 15/Sep/11 with jonny

JRae - 2nd - 15/Sep/11 with C Middleton

I think this is like my fourth or fifth VS. Very pleased with this lead, was very hard though a nice rest in the middle was very much appreciated. On topping out I felt a little cheer was called for. John did the direct start.
MPSBunny - Lead - 29/Aug/11 with John Brannock

b.hayley - 2nd O/S - 19/Jul/11 with alfredo

Hidden - Lead - 09/Jul/11

Direct start. Wow! never thought of a campus fist jam until today.
howlingbaboon - 2nd rpt - 02/Jul/11 with Rob

Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Jun/11

belay bunny turned bad - 2nd O/S - 11/Jun/11 with loundsy

Direct start
stephenhartley - 2nd - 10/Jun/11 with ryan jones

kitkat78 - 2nd O/S - 02/Jun/11 with Steve C, Graham P

Steve13 - 2nd β - 28/May/11 with Craig Lukins

Brown - Solo O/S - 19/Mar/11 with Solo

Awesome Route! - Scott beasted the direct start.
howlingbaboon - Lead O/S - Mar/11 with Scott

David Smith - 2011

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 06/Nov/10

tlmarjot - Lead O/S - 06/Nov/10 with Chris Todd, Ben Lea

Hidden - 2nd - 06/Nov/10

Jonathan Hall - 2nd - 24/Oct/10

direct start. HVS 5c. brilliant jam and jug fest.
disturbed_one51 - Lead - 24/Oct/10 with Wee man

Did left hand finish.
Andrew Sloan - 2nd O/S - 24/Oct/10

What a struggle :( 1 year later I find out why, ripped the tendon in right shoulder, from slipping on wet grass in climbing shoes at bottom of climb. Boo Hoo!
mountaingoatgirl - Lead β - 19/Oct/10 with Nick Bean

TerryLines - 2nd O/S - 18/Sep/10

theotherpetehill - 2nd - 28/Aug/10

chrisallan - Lead rpt - 28/Aug/10

I thought it was pretty hard, even the starting move, which is supposed to be Diff.
masa-alpin - 2nd β - 15/Aug/10 with Gordon

Excellent route
Pete Nugent - 2nd - 08/Jul/10 with Richard Toon

keefe - Lead - 13/Jun/10

HVS 5c direct start
JamieSparkes - Lead O/S - 11/Jun/10 with Nick

Nick1812P - Lead O/S - 11/Jun/10 with Jamie

Hidden - Solo O/S - 21/May/10

Direct 5c start, brilliant climb
smudge - Lead O/S - 20/May/10 with Phil

Phil1967 - 2nd dog - 20/May/10 with Dan

mikej - 2nd - 27/Apr/10 with Rick Naylor

Hidden - 2nd dog - 18/Apr/10

Hidden - 2nd RP - 17/Apr/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 17/Apr/10

Anthony Dixon - Lead O/S - 11/Apr/10

Hidden - Mar/10

philw - 2010

buxtoncoffeelover - 2nd - 2010

Hidden - Dec/09

RCrockford - Lead dog - 19/Sep/09 with Mark D

Diggler - 2nd - 19/Sep/09 with RCrockford

titchbach - 2nd - 11/Sep/09

Hidden - Solo - 07/Sep/09

Hidden - 2nd - 19/Aug/09

Good route, jams in the bottom crack are more like arm bars. Bit green though.
teflonpete - 2nd β - 16/Aug/09 with Dave M

andyebbens - 2nd - 22/Jun/09 with Paul

Mark Adams - Lead - 14/Jun/09

Mark Adams - Lead - 14/Jun/09

slacky - Lead O/S - 13/Jun/09 with Tim

sgl0jd - 2nd - 08/Jun/09 with Lizzie

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Jun/09

bullwinkle - Lead O/S - 25/May/09 with Duck Egg

daveclarke5 - 2nd O/S - 19/Apr/09 with Marcus

Si dH - Lead O/S - 21/Feb/09 with Neil Furniss

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 21/Feb/09

shark - Solo - 31/Jan/09 with Steve Ramsden

direct start
Ram MkiV - Solo O/S - 31/Jan/09 with Simon Lee

reg_measures - Lead - 2009 with neil and claire

Hidden - Lead - 2009

Hidden - Lead - 2009

PenJD - Lead O/S - 18/Oct/08 with Jackie Bernardi

Hidden - Lead O/S - 12/Oct/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 12/Oct/08

greenclimb - Lead O/S - 12/Oct/08 with Sarah

lowersharpnose - 2nd - 25/Sep/08 with MarkWesterman

Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/Sep/08

Direct start HVS 5c (Rockfax Eastern Grit) Although I did the direct start found the jamming crack most difficult.
deacondeacon - Lead O/S - 20/Jul/08 with Paul

TomHaigh - Lead O/S - 15/Jul/08 with James Turnbull

Nicos - Solo rpt - 15/Jul/08 with rich howels

Great climb: plenty of challenge, plenty of big pro!
JohnHutch - Lead O/S - 07/Jul/08 with L

Hidden - Jul/08

Hidden - TR - 17/Jun/08

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 14/Jun/08

alek - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/08 with Phill Cunnington

feilx - Solo O/S - 11/Jun/08

Hidden - Jun/08

Stig - 2nd rpt - 18/May/08 with Jonathan Teale

Rob84 - Lead O/S - 10/May/08 with Dave Ripley

dave657 - 2nd - 10/May/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/May/08

Ian Parnell - Lead O/S - Feb/08 with Jon Winter

jamesturnbull - Lead - 2008

jimdanson - 2nd - 27/Sep/07 with Martin Ibbotson

Jimbo C - 2nd - 08/Sep/07

danm - 2nd - Sep/07

craig d - 2nd - 04/Aug/07 with Simon Kincaid

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 21/Jun/07

Graeme Hammond - Lead O/S - 10/Jun/07 with Alex Twist

Twisty - 2nd O/S - 10/Jun/07 with Graeme Hammond

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 03/Jun/07

Hidden - Lead - Jun/07

Hidden - 2nd - 26/May/07

Hidden - Lead - 04/Feb/07

Sustained last section Jamming is the key
Steve Banham - Lead O/S - 14/Jan/07 with Layla

Duncan I - 2007

hard for VS, notched up my first lead fall, and then struggled to get my 7 hex back out.
gethin_allen - Lead - 2007 with Jimbo.

fantastic route
colin milton - Lead - 14/Jul/06 with fenclimb

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 14/Jul/06

MeMeMe - 2nd - 22/Apr/06 with Nick

Smelly Fox - Lead O/S - Oct/04 with Gus Hudgins

Smeegan - Lead O/S - Sep/04 with Dale

Stig - 2nd O/S - 16/Jul/04 with Charlie Reade-Jahn

Ken Taylor - Lead - 01/Jun/04 with Gerry Dunford

Hidden - 2nd - 03/Aug/03

Hidden - Solo O/S - 14/Jun/03

aged_ape - Lead O/S - May/02 with KC

BenTiffin - Lead O/S - 2002 with Various

Hidden - 2002

Roget - Solo O/S - 27/Oct/01

kp64zl - Lead - Oct/01 with Paddy B

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 13/May/01

Hidden - Lead - 13/May/01

Hidden - Lead - 13/May/01

Hidden - Lead O/S - 27/Aug/00

goi.ashmore - Lead β - 10/Oct/98 with James Tracey

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Aug/98

cem - 2nd dog - 25/Apr/98 with Graham Dolman

Dave Mountford - Lead - Jul/97 with Damon Heath

estimated date
Dave Mountford - Lead - 1997 with Damon Heath

Hidden - Lead O/S - Oct/96

Chris Ellis - Lead rpt - 16/Jul/94 with Gamba

Laramadness - 2nd - 1994

Hidden - Lead - 14/Aug/93

ste_d - 2nd O/S - 21/May/93 with mik

Stoney Boy - 2nd O/S - 28/Apr/91 with Colin Hughes

Hidden - Lead - 26/Jun/90

Hidden - 2nd - 27/May/90

steve prior - Lead - May/90 with Rob W

Andy Say - Solo - 01/Jan/89

BRUCESTRAC - 1988 with Chris Cracknell,Various

Chris Ellis - 2nd - 20/Sep/87 with Simon Barnaby

charlesmfrench - Solo O/S - 04/Jul/87

Dave Musgrove - 29/Nov/86 with Kim Greenald

Hidden - Lead - 06/Jul/86

mark-abz - TR - 15/Nov/84

Hidden - 2nd - 25/Feb/84

Nigel Bond - Lead - 07/Sep/80 with Pete

Chris Craggs - Solo - 1980

I find it very hard.
Gordon Stainforth - 2nd - 05/Jul/70 with John Stainforth

mikej - Lead - 22/Mar/70 with E

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