45m, 2 pitches. Loose, dangerous, overgrown and also quite hard. My advice would be don't go near it. That first belay on the sloping ledge is also not fit. Nasty.

P crew, I McNaught-davies 03/Jun/1966

mattnuttall 04/May/14 AltLd O/S

We climbed something described in guide as the alternative start to Diogenes... just DON'T... loose overgrown death trap... and not HVS either

with Andy Wilson
Andrew Wilson 04/May/14 AltLd O/S
with Matt Nuttall
PAJames ??/2011 -
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