Direct Start to Diogenes HVS 5a
45m, 2 pitches. Loose, dangerous, overgrown and also quite hard. My advice would be don't go near it. That first belay on the sloping ledge is also not fit. Nasty.
P crew, I McNaught-davies 03/Jun/1966
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We climbed something described in guide as the alternative start to Diogenes... just DON'T... loose overgrown death trap... and not HVS either
mattnuttall - AltLd O/S - 04/May/14 with Andy Wilson

Andrew Wilson - AltLd O/S - 04/May/14 with Matt Nuttall

PAJames - 2011

Hidden - Lead - 08/May/94

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