In pretty good condition. Main pitch has plenty of ice but still kept as right as possible by the draw of the rock gear. Next pitch was excellent with first time placements!
kenneM - AltLd - 30/Jan/15 with Steve Marner, Carl Davies
Getting up at 06.00 would have put us first or second. Instead we were fourth, more than an hour waiting. Not a bad spot to wait. Glad I brought my pack could wear duvet jacket and drink hot coffee.
The ice was thick and Stu got the plum second pitch. This and the following we pitched.
The second pitch took three slings, two being in situ, missed out the in situ wire, a friend and then ice screw.
On my turn had to wait a while before I could start. Limited belay options at top?
The ice was accommodating with natural hook options and steps not to mention prior axe holes. Less so at the crux, stepping around a bulge. Up to a sling then the stance with three people on it.
Rounded ice falls follow. I opt to go ASAP taking in the unused left side. I grab the bandoleer, which later to my discomfort, I find has enough pro but not all the draws.
The falls take two ice screws and two bulldogs. Could have placed more using reworked slings and crabs. Once over the falls it's slabby ice-snow to the boulder belay at the top with not much spare on the sixties.
lost.arrow - AltLd O/S - 24/Jan/15
tom.e - Lead O/S - 22/Jan/15 with Claire
I lead 2nd pitch. Brad lead a brilliant finihing pitch up a pitch up ice on th left
Ewan Russell - AltLd O/S - 19/Jan/15 with Brad
breed - AltLd O/S - 19/Jan/15
Hidden - 2015
Hidden - 2015
No ice had formed - had to take mixed line at 6
tskelhon - AltLd O/S - May/13 with Charlotte
clmacdonald - AltLd - May/13 with tskelhon
Ice a bit thin so Kin led grade 6 pitch. Ran final two pitches together - slightly too long for 60m rope but moved together on easy terrain until big flake belay could be reached.
Pete_Frost - AltLd - 08/Apr/13 with Kin Choi
I fell off near the top of the chimney on the crux pitch as something snapped out on the L pick (probably some turf I managed to see). Gear (in situ, loads of them) was so good. I got back straight onto it. I led it clean the second time. Brilliant dry tooling. The best winter lead I had. Truely deserves a grade 6 and 3 stars.
Skinny Kin - AltLd dog - 08/Apr/13 with Pete Frost
jjclarke70 - AltLd - 20/Mar/13 with justin barker
mikeyjbs - AltLd O/S - 04/Mar/13 with mike moss
mike.moss - AltLd O/S - 04/Mar/13 with Michael Stephenson
Split the main pitch so Andy lead the mixed bit and belayed half way up the chimney where the ice got fat. Liam lead the ice and I lead the top pitch, not sure if it was the top pitch of this route or the top pitch of pillar chimney. My hardest winter lead. Was great fun.
Olli-C - AltLd O/S - 02/Mar/13 with Andy Hall, Liam
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 02/Mar/13
Hidden - AltLd - 02/Mar/13
With Vic Belshaw
steveboote - AltLd - Mar/13
Still in excellent condition
TimJ - 27/Feb/13
thick and hard ice .. fabulous conditions....great company
manxclare - AltLd O/S - 24/Feb/13 with jon22
Great Ice, climbed Left of 2 chimneys at top on thin ice. Great Day
The Bad Cough - AltLd O/S - 24/Feb/13 with Tony Ball
Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/Feb/13
jon22 - AltLd O/S - 24/Feb/13 with manxclare
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 23/Feb/13
Pete Rigby - Lead O/S - 26/Jan/13 with Merlin March, Kelli Roberts
Mixed condition V,6. Sam led crux.
Neil D - AltLd O/S - 26/Jan/13 with sam thompson
kelliroberts3 - AltLd O/S - 26/Jan/13 with merlin march, Peter Rigby
P1 and P4
Tom Livingstone - Lead rpt - 22/Jan/13 with Jez Hawksworth
industrialiceman - 20/Jan/13
Hidden - 2nd - 19/Jan/13
Andy led it hall. Burly middle pitch.
tsl42 - 2nd dog - 19/Jan/13 with Liam Brown, Andy mumc
clams - 2nd - Jan/13 with PR&K
Led all pitches, cheers Pete! Took mixed variation and then middle top gully
Tom Livingstone - Lead O/S - 13/Dec/12 with Pete Harrison
Mixed variation on p1 and middle finish. Brilliant.
Owain Llewelyn - AltLd - 12/Dec/12 with Gareth E
Climbed V 6 mixed 2nd pitch. Ice was better higher up, moved left and finished up easy ramp. Plenty of sun and blue skies
Glyn - AltLd O/S - 03/Feb/12 with Tom Skelhon
Jack.H.92 - AltLd - 03/Feb/12
Hidden - 2012
adie84 - 2011
Luke Brooks - 2011
Hidden - 2011
PAJames - 2011
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 24/Dec/10
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 24/Dec/10
jparry75 - AltLd - 24/Dec/10 with m.evans
Waited a long while to be at the crag with the ice there. Absolutely superb.
NeilGriffiths - AltLd - 22/Dec/10 with Adam
An absolute classic brilliant. Got it on the second attempt (helps when it is in nick)
A Crook - AltLd O/S - 22/Dec/10 with Neil Griffiths
timjones - AltLd O/S - 21/Dec/10 with Neil McLean
1st proper ice route, ace.. apart from agonising hot aches, no one told me about that shit.
wolf.leeb - 2nd O/S - 20/Dec/10 with nic
Becoming tradition for me . Wee bit cruddy in places and prob nearer tech 4 than 5 today.
mynyddresident - 20/Dec/10 with wolf
Finished it! Stunning day, great climb.
Adam Booth - AltLd O/S - 19/Dec/10 with Tom Jumar, Misha
2hrs to slog up through shin to knee deep snow, a guy from another team kindly broke trail. Had to swim up the approach gully. Tom made short work of P1, which wasn't particularly hard but thinner than when Phil, Ian and I did it last Feb. I carelessly came off seconding just as was about to pull round onto the ice after removing the last bit of gear in the corner - had a dodgy placement, thought might as well carry on and the axe ripped or slipped off as I swung the other one. Embarassing! Not the kind of thing I would have done on lead. Adam finished up great plastic ice on the fat second pitch, taking the leftward rising icefall and then a bit of ice on the right to the top (think I did that bit to finish Pillar Chimney). A top day even though had done the route before. For the first time ever, walked out the same way as we had come in as just followed our tracks.
Misha - 2nd - 19/Dec/10 with Adam Booth, Tom
Took hours to even get to the route through deep powder, so rapped off nr top of first main pitch. Awesome climbing all the same!
Adam Booth - Lead O/S - 17/Dec/10 with Ed Booth
Ed Booth - 2nd - 17/Dec/10 with Adam Booth
not sure what the grade is but flanked off right just before tatt and joined top half of right hand direct.
tscoobydoo - Lead O/S - Dec/10 with phillip belcher
Hidden - AltLd - Dec/10
A superb and top-quality route! Interests are really sustained, from ice to mix! The P2 crux ice pitch was thin; 10cm maximum for screws in less than perfect ice. Took the direct chimney finish.
masa-alpin - Lead O/S - 14/Mar/10 with Tom H
Soloed the first pitch, I led the prize pitch, C did the chockstone pitch, then I finished up the fantastic ice on the left. A brilliant climb, in perfect condition.
Simon Caldwell - AltLd - 13/Mar/10 with Carmen
most of the ice very thin. Not many screw placements.
BorisVBlade - Lead O/S - 13/Mar/10 with Guillaume Billardon
Soloed to bottom of main pitch. Rob then led with surprising ease and only two screws. What a pitch! Steep and thin but brilliant positioned and very atmospheric in the mist. I led over the chockstone and then after a bit of faffing with belays continued to lead to the top over the top-class icefall to finish.
Will Smith - AltLd O/S - 13/Mar/10 with Rob
Quality climbing throughout, felt super confident on it , I thought the ice was fine, got a few ok screws in but was really happy and moved quickly. Should do it in 2 pitches, belaying in the gully RH (good nuts) after the chockstone. We took the huge icefall finish as it looked so good - and it was
lithos - AltLd - 13/Mar/10 with will smith
TimPerkin - AltLd O/S - 08/Mar/10 with Colin Beechey
Hidden - AltLd rpt - 07/Mar/10
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 07/Mar/10
Soloed to the ice pitch, Fell off at top of steep section on next pitch, so had to climb it again! At my limit!
emlynroberts - 2nd - 06/Mar/10 with Nigel Milner
Hidden - 06/Mar/10
Hidden - AltLd - 26/Feb/10
first on route! 1 hr 20 min walk in! both led first pitch (2) jim led second and third in one pitch (5/6 and 4) i led last (4) 3 stars!
spidey - AltLd - 20/Feb/10 with Jimmy
Terrifying & exhilerating! My walking crampons popped off on the first (easy) pitch. After fixing them back together with a sling, Alex led the crux pitch under showers of icicles and snow knocked down from above. Finished the route just as the last of the light faded and down-climbed an easy gully by the light of the moon.
crossdressingrodney - 2nd O/S - 20/Feb/10 with alex malins
Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/Feb/10
reliably informed this is a grade V
Geth and i went the mega hard way :S
RachelP - 2nd - 18/Feb/10 with Geth, Jamie
Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Feb/10
np134 - 2nd - 14/Feb/10 with D. Wicks
Did in two pitches. Good lead by Phil on the steep ice of P1 with an entertaining mixed start. I did the direct narrow gully finish, with the crux being a few moves on thin ice to get round a hanging chandelier - fortunately there was a good nut not too far below! Excellent route which was in good condition, the only issue was that the ice was a bit brittle so while Phil was leading there was a fair bit of debris coming down from a couple of teams above.
Misha - AltLd O/S - 13/Feb/10 with Ian W, Phil
Lead the main pitch, good steep ice. Misha took top, short and thin.
philhilo - AltLd O/S - 13/Feb/10 with misha, ian wyatt
Excellent climbing through out. Tricky step left but v good gear.
AB1965 - Lead - 12/Feb/10
I lead crux pitch
Dave Heaton - AltLd - 12/Feb/10
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 11/Feb/10
frost - AltLd - 07/Feb/10 with D Garry
mux - AltLd O/S - 07/Feb/10 with frost
mynyddresident - AltLd - Feb/10 with liam
mynyddresident - Feb/10 with geraint
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 31/Jan/10
Hidden - AltLd - 31/Jan/10
Hidden - AltLd - 2010
Hidden - AltLd dog - 24/Dec/09
Very little ice. V 6
stevebarratt - AltLd O/S - 24/Dec/09 with Jade Littlewood
Soloed snow gully to beneath the chimney. Led half of second pitch but kept on mixed stuff in chimney due to thin conditions. Belayed at split in the gully. Seconded top part of pitch 2 in thin conditions. Led final snow gully and mixed climbed out of final chinmey in near darkness.
Thought this route was often in - felt thin throughout to me?
Karlos - AltLd - 10/Feb/09 with Tom
Mike led the pitch of 4. Excellent climb in great condition.
jcurley - AltLd O/S - 05/Feb/09 with Mike Buddle
mynyddresident - AltLd - Feb/09
Hidden - AltLd O/S - Jan/09
zero six - AltLd O/S - 2009
davebrox - AltLd - 2009
Rob Pitt - 2008
Ian McNeill - 2006
Tim W - AltLd O/S - 06/Mar/05 with Myles Jordan
Ice was as thick as the skin on my chattering teeth on P2! Led P1 & P3
Happy Wanderer - AltLd O/S - 05/Mar/05 with Ken T
Tom M Williams - AltLd O/S - Jan/05 with Pete ?
keith leonard - 2005 with steve mead
phardman - Solo - 02/Mar/96 with Guy Maddox
phardman - Feb/96
michael burrows - AltLd O/S - 24/Dec/95 with steve ward
Hidden - AltLd - 20/Feb/94
Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/Feb/94
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 1993
mark-abz - Lead - 12/Jan/91 with Andy W
Martin Haworth - AltLd O/S - Feb/82 with Dave Snowden
Hidden - AltLd - 01/Jan/80