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Savage Messiah** E2 5c

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[Vorticism, 3 kb]14m. A direct on Sepulchrave which only has a short independent section featuring a couple of memorable moves! Climb Sepulchrave's crack then continue directly to enter the large porthole by awkward undercutting and a precarious high step. Finish up the wide chimney above. © ROCKFAX
FA. Rob Burwood 1975

Ticklists: The Froggatt to Black Rocks into E2 smile list.

Photo: Vorticism © Patrick Daniel
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PUBLIC LOGBOOKS
This climb is in 91 logbooks, and on 6 wishlists.

Hidden - TR O/S - 03/Nov/13

switch - Lead O/S - 19/Oct/13 with Vun, Ben Couch

Andrew Wilson - 2nd O/S - 18/Aug/13 with jon stewart

Si dH - 2nd rpt - 20/Apr/13 with Neil Furniss

Hidden - 2nd - 17/Apr/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Apr/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Apr/13

sazmaz - 2nd β - 10/Dec/12 with Dan Lanchester-Wright

Rich Kirby - Lead O/S - 06/Oct/12 with Manbeast

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/Sep/12

Matt Cooke - 2nd rpt - 09/Sep/12 with Tom Jagger

Daniel Heath - Lead O/S - 07/Sep/12 with Coel

felt hard for 5c, but im quite short.
Milne - 2nd O/S - 28/Aug/12 with dave saxby

Hidden - Lead - 28/Aug/12

Si dH - 2nd rpt - 12/May/12 with Olly

Hidden - Lead O/S - 12/May/12

tomhull - 2nd β - 11/Mar/12 with Chris Plant

Nice route. First onsight lead of the year, was definintely rusty in spotting holds!
Si dH - Lead O/S - 25/Feb/12 with Si Letman

First lead of the year, found the HVS bits the hardest.
Graeme Hammond - Lead O/S - 25/Feb/12 with Jim

sarah hawker - 2nd dog - 25/Feb/12 with Ed (Malta), Neil Morbey, Sarah Follmann

Fluffed the crux move, one to come back and clean lead.
Jim Slater - 2nd dog - 25/Feb/12 with Graeme

EagerAndy - Lead - 2012

Hidden - Lead O/S - 27/Nov/11

Matt Cooke - Lead O/S - 27/Nov/11 with Rosh

pmurdy - 2nd - 20/Nov/11 with Jonny Reay

JRae - Lead - 20/Nov/11 with Paul M

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/Oct/11

Hidden - 2nd - 02/Oct/11

Chris_barr - 2nd O/S - 21/Sep/11 with James

Brown - 2nd - 07/Aug/11 with Tim

Hidden - 07/Aug/11

Hidden - 2nd - 22/Jul/11

mark s - Lead O/S - 16/Apr/11 with andi,ed

Souljah - 2nd - 16/Apr/11 with Mark and Andi

went too far into the the offwidth near the top, don't do that again... Had to rest on the rope
busdriver - 2nd dog - 09/Apr/11 with Owen, Chris

Dizz - 2nd - 02/Apr/11 with David B

On Andy's gear
mark20 - Lead β - 26/Mar/11

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 26/Mar/11

kingholmesy - 2nd O/S - 2011 with Richard B

straight foward moves but sustained, crux is not that hard
joese7en - 2nd O/S - 06/Nov/10

JulesV - Lead O/S - 02/Aug/10 with dave evans

Committing at the long-reach move... Cool route.
highlux - Lead O/S - Aug/10

duzinga - 2nd O/S - 12/Jun/10 with Kirk, Pete Harris

Hard moves on the undercut.
Kirk - 2nd dog - 12/Jun/10 with Tuze, P Harris

wolverine - 19/Sep/09 with Iain Mount

Hidden - 2nd - 19/Sep/09

Hidden - Lead β - 29/Aug/09

Fell off crux, comedy upside-down fall into the tree branches. Did the crux easily second go but the cleft at the top proved a complete mare, had to leave the helmet in the recess to be able to do the full body jam!
Misha - Lead dog - 18/Oct/08

Misha left his gear in after Mike failed to second it, so used it on the way past.
Brian Rodgers - Lead O/S - 18/Oct/08 with Rob

Tough position to hold and irreversible, hard therefore.
Paz - 2nd β - 17/Sep/08 with TS, SC

Tim Steward - Lead O/S - 17/Sep/08 with James Parrot

Hidden - Lead - 14/May/08

Mark lead the route then dropped the ropes. I then lead the route but clipped his gear...mind you, some of it disappeared at crucial times!
jibberingwreck - Lead β - 09/May/08 with Mark

mikeshewring - 2nd - 02/May/08

Hidden - Lead - May/08

Hidden - 2008

daveagriff - TR - 2008

Al Evans - 2008

A total doddle. How is this E2?
Ian Jones - Lead O/S - 2008 with Karen Ghiselli and Graeme Alderson

John Southworth - Lead O/S - Feb/07 with Chris Snell

Rob Kennard - 2007

Boy - 2006

Iggy_B - Lead O/S - 27/May/05 with Simon Shaw

shark - 2nd rpt - 23/Jan/05 with Joe Picalli

Hidden - Lead O/S - 06/Apr/03

Hidden - 2nd - 06/Jul/02

Hidden - Lead O/S - 28/Jun/02

nickdonohue - Lead - Jun/02 with Mike Peak

PaulTanton - Lead O/S - 17/Jun/01 with Dave Taylor

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/May/00

Hidden - 2nd - 12/May/00

tlr - Lead - 2000

shark - 2nd - 10/Jan/99 with Jon Barton

Hidden - TR - 28/Apr/96

Hidden - Lead rpt - 30/Mar/96

Glenn Sutcliffe - 2nd - 30/Mar/96 with Neil Foster

Dave Musgrove - 2nd - 12/Jun/94 with Julian Cooper

Stoney Boy - Lead O/S - 09/May/93 with Andy Elliot, Bob Marks

Dave Musgrove - Lead - 20/Jun/92 with Kim Greenald

Hidden - Lead - 12/May/92

Roget - Lead O/S - 22/Sep/91 with colin, baccy

charlesmfrench - Lead O/S - 03/Sep/91

Hidden - Lead - 02/Aug/90

Hidden - Solo rpt - 16/Jun/90

Hidden - 1989

Chris Ellis - 2nd - 09/Jul/88 with Martin Veale

Hidden - Lead - 02/Oct/87

Tom V - 1987

Hidden - Lead - 21/Jun/86

andy gittins - 1985

Mark Kemball - Lead - 08/May/83 with Paul Clark

Users with this climb on their wishlist are:
rurp, gavinpeach, Hidden, Owen W-G, Hidden, B-bop

Voting
Total votes cast 61
hard E30 of 21
E30 of 21
easy E30 of 21
hard E20 of 21
E217 of 21
easy E23 of 21
hard E11 of 21
E10 of 21
easy E10 of 21
hard 6a0 of 21
6a0 of 21
easy 6a0 of 21
hard 5c0 of 21
5c16 of 21
easy 5c3 of 21
hard 5b2 of 21
5b0 of 21
easy 5b0 of 21
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Style of ascent

Soloed1 of 91 (1.1%)
Lead45 of 91 (49.5%)
Followed33 of 91 (36.3%)
Toproped3 of 91 (3.3%)
Unknown9 of 91 (9.9%)

'Climbed'39 of 91 (42.9%)
clean O/S35 of 91 (38.5%)
clean β6 of 91 (6.6%)
clean rpt6 of 91 (6.6%)
dogged5 of 91 (5.5%)