Rockfax Description
The second of the trio of classics follows the wall and slim groove in the centre of the crag. The one to start on to get yourself warmed up.
1) 4a, 17m. Climb a cracked groove and then follow blocky ledges up above to a good stance.
2) 4c, 20m. Move up and right to gain the groove proper. After some tricky moves this leads more easily to a finish on the left. © Rockfax

Ticklists: North Wales Rock Graded List, North Wales 100 Classic Climbs.

TimKnight 03/Oct 2nd
with Dave Marshall
tom jefferies 07/Sep Lead O/S
with oli dowen
tom jefferies 02/Sep 2nd dnf

oli lead first pitch in light rain. rain got heavier so i climbed up to oli at belay and striped route, lowered down and oli abseiled off.

with oli dowen
dobby 200 31/Aug AltLd rpt

I led P1

with kendal
Joshthomas 16/Aug AltLd O/S
NickST 11/Aug AltLd
Hidden 06/Aug AltLd O/S
cdpuk 19/Jul AltLd O/S

Led P2.

RobScarisbrick 19/Jul AltLd O/S

Lead P1

with cdpuk
martrin 10/Jul AltLd
with Sarah Kekus
Hidden 29/Jun AltLd O/S
08nbrierley 29/Jun AltLd O/S

pitch 2

with jamie
mattprince 14/Jun AltLd O/S
with Stephen Knaggs
tobydunford 30/May Lead O/S
with Kirsty Kerr
Hidden 30/May AltLd O/S
Qureshi 25/May AltLd O/S
adamre12 25/May AltLd O/S


dkd 25/May Lead O/S
with Al
SAF 24/May 2nd O/S
with Phil
Hidden 24/May Lead O/S
Hidden 23/May Lead O/S
Lyndsay Superclimber 23/May AltLd O/S

Led 1st pitch

with Ryan
Hidden 23/May AltLd
Dave Reeve 13/May AltLd O/S
JonnySchofield 01/May AltLd O/S
with Jo Philip
Palmer 16/Apr Lead O/S

Top Pitch was a Gem Good Vs section in the middle to wake you up after some very easy climbing.

with Sarah
Chris Manasseh 06/Apr AltLd

Led p 1

Private Flounder 06/Apr AltLd
Chriswallis2 05/Apr Lead O/S
with Anna
Hidden 04/Apr -
Hidden 22/Mar AltLd O/S
Hidden 07/Mar AltLd O/S
Hidden ??/2015 -
dobby 200 03/Dec/14 AltLd O/S

I lead pitch 2

joedoherty 03/Dec/14 AltLd O/S
Danhan 15/Oct/14 2nd O/S
with Tom Lawfield, Nick
Hidden 15/Oct/14 Lead
inspiration_needed 27/Sep/14 AltLd O/S

Lead crux pitch. 4c top groove. Easy and well protected.

with Mat Cooper
D Berry 24/Aug/14 AltLd O/S

Led second pitch. Found moves up to the V groove hard and worrying. Moves into the V groove much easier. Excellent protection through out. Still an excellent route overall.

with Wayne S
Wayne S 24/Aug/14 AltLd
with Dale
svdie 09/Aug/14 Lead O/S
Kate Edhouse 07/Aug/14 AltLd O/S

Lead second pitch, lovely corner.

Louis Hume 07/Aug/14 Lead

Straight forward

with Oli
HB-Pencil 04/Aug/14 2nd β
Hidden 29/Jun/14 -
julesmckim 29/Jun/14 2nd
mark mcgowan01 29/Jun/14 -
with Anita Grey
Dave Almond 22/Jun/14 2nd

Super sunny grippy rock

Nicole Almond 22/Jun/14 Lead

Nice climb, lovely lead, great weather. A stolen day.

with Dad
foostu4 18/Jun/14 AltLd O/S
beesleys 16/Jun/14 Lead O/S
with alison
Hidden 16/Jun/14 2nd O/S
rgd1977 01/Jun/14 Lead O/S
nodwas ?/Jun/14 Lead
John Nuttall 31/May/14 Lead
with Sharon
poeter210 24/May/14 Lead O/S
druss 24/May/14 2nd O/S
AndrewP 18/May/14 AltLd O/S

Very soft for VS - more like HS 4b. With Sasha from PyB course.

anthonydouglas 02/May/14 AltLd O/S

Lead 1st pitch

Hidden 02/May/14 AltLd O/S
swmackey 12/Apr/14 AltLd
Hidden 22/Feb/14 Lead O/S
Hidden ??/2014 -
mike mo ??/2014 -
IanGilbertJones ??/2014 -
Allanfairfechan ??/2014 -
Hidden ??/2014 -
thegoatstroker 23/Sep/13 AltLd
saraguti 20/Sep/13 Lead O/S

lead second pitch. great

with rick sewards
Hidden 18/Sep/13 Lead O/S
Pinguville 18/Sep/13 2nd O/S
with George
Prof. Outdoors 31/Aug/13 AltLd
with Wendy
Simon Cahill 19/Aug/13 2nd RP

First pitch steep, 2nd pitch crux getting into the groove keep going the holds will come, backed off on lead then flew up as second (the holds are there - annoyed). 19/Aug/13 Lead
Andy_B39 19/Aug/13 2nd O/S
with Sam Tolhurst
Robin Brooke ?/Aug/13 Lead

Led p2

Pryan ?/Aug/13 AltLd
with Robin Brooke
Hidden 28/Jul/13 AltLd
Hidden 28/Jul/13 AltLd O/S
jcasey2436 22/Jul/13 AltLd O/S
Glyn Davidson 29/Jun/13 AltLd O/S

Easily worth it's two stars. Dan pitch 1, me pitch 2.

with Dan
mynyddresident 09/Jun/13 Lead
with Rach
Hidden 09/Jun/13 AltLd O/S
Hidden 01/Jun/13 Lead
Andrew Lester 28/May/13 AltLd
Hidden 19/May/13 2nd
herman0055 13/May/13 Lead O/S

Excellent climbing, nearly missed the belay so had to back track from the ledge. 2nd pitch easily the best, a tad wet in places but really nice moves with exposure on the crux :) started to rain on pitch 2 but managed to finish it in time.

with Jenny
Hidden 13/May/13 2nd
ross brinson 08/May/13 AltLd O/S
with Ben Biscoe
Abi Chard 06/May/13 AltLd O/S
with Ann B
Tim Rodgers 05/May/13 2nd
ashsleight 30/Apr/13 Lead O/S

A nice climb after work. 2 really good sections on the top pitch.

JonesJ 30/Apr/13 2nd O/S
Hidden 19/Apr/13 2nd
Kyle87 08/Apr/13 AltLd O/S

1st pitch. Mouth-wateringly good.

Dan724 08/Apr/13 AltLd O/S
Fragmod 03/Mar/13 Lead
Alex.M-M. 03/Mar/13 Lead O/S

Done as a single pitch.

Ray Sparks 17/Feb/13 AltLd O/S

great climb worthy of an extra star

with mike b
herman0055 09/Feb/13 Lead
Nick Biven ??/2013 -
tim20 ??/2013 -
Sam Simpson 05/Oct/12 AltLd O/S
ads 15/Sep/12 AltLd
Andrew Lester 06/Sep/12 AltLd
Robert.harden 10/Aug/12 AltLd O/S

Very good climb. Multi pitch route. I lead the first and will lead the second. Next time I would park on the track closest to the crag otherwise it's a maze through the woods.

bwestwood 06/Aug/12 AltLd
Anna Yorke 23/Jul/12 2nd
guy757 21/Jul/12 AltLd
Johnywilks 21/Jul/12 Lead O/S
zukator 12/Jul/12 AltLd
with Shaun
Hidden 23/Jun/12 Lead
Hidden 23/Jun/12 2nd
fizzychewitt 02/Jun/12 Lead

I really enjoyed this climb. Second pitch lovely

with Andy
jayrenegade 26/May/12 Lead O/S

Lead P1, prav's pitch was better.

with Prav
Hidden 26/May/12 Lead
Hidden 29/Mar/12 Lead O/S
Hidden 19/Mar/12 -
jezb1 19/Mar/12 AltLd

p1, couldn't really feel my fingers!

Hidden ??/2012 -
lost.arrow 20/Nov/11 -
with Stu Sherwood
Hidden 02/Oct/11 2nd
Hidden 28/Sep/11 AltLd
Hidden 29/Aug/11 AltLd O/S
victim of mathematics 09/Aug/11 AltLd O/S

Led P2. Would get 3 stars on another crag which didn't have Lavaredo on it...

with Simon
Hidden 09/Aug/11 AltLd O/S
Ed Booth 30/Jul/11 Lead O/S
g1m147 24/Jul/11 AltLd
with Mick.
willoates 04/Jul/11 Lead O/S

in one. 5 mins

with lawrence
asmith37 02/Jul/11 Lead O/S

in one pitch

with Michelle Baylis, Bex Leigh
davesb 13/Jun/11 AltLd rpt
taw 13/Jun/11 AltLd rpt

I led the second pitch.

with Dave sb, Sarah Hawker
sarah hawker 13/Jun/11 2nd O/S

Dave led P1, Tom led P2

kristinawe 29/May/11 2nd
xusa 03/May/11 2nd O/S

Quite steep VS, nice big hand holds, beautiful and peaceful place!

Simon Caldwell 01/May/11 AltLd O/S

I led pitch 1, making it look like 4c, C led pitch 2, making it look like 4a!

with Carmen
cmsg 30/Apr/11 -
with Richard Haszko, John Tomlinson
hellboundblr 29/Apr/11 2nd

In one pitch.

with Steve P
stevepotter 29/Apr/11 Lead
with Bryan
Hidden 29/Apr/11 AltLd O/S
cjohn62 28/Apr/11 2nd
with bob
Hidden 12/Apr/11 2nd
Katy Nelson ?/Apr/11 AltLd
with Lawrence Ramsey
Hidden ?/Apr/11 Lead
cem 27/Mar/11 Lead rpt

Led in one.

with Charles Mason
Hidden 27/Mar/11 2nd
Hidden ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
PAJames ??/2011 -
PAJames ??/2011 -
centurion05 ??/2011 Lead O/S
with The Reverend
Hidden 30/Aug/10 -
MikeLeeds 27/Aug/10 Lead O/S
with Kevin Bowser
Hidden 27/Aug/10 2nd O/S
clive-greenwood 27/Aug/10 2nd O/S
with Anna
Jessie Rushbrooke 22/Aug/10 Lead O/S
with PShearman
chri55ie 16/Aug/10 Lead
with Tony Marchant
Hidden 15/Aug/10 Lead
Hidden 14/Aug/10 Lead O/S
Kirill 14/Aug/10 2nd O/S
cem 14/Aug/10 2nd
seb m-c 13/Aug/10 2nd
with Martin Callaghan
Richard Gilbert 29/Jul/10 Lead O/S
with Jerry Ostrowski
alek 19/Jun/10 Lead O/S
with Krystina Common, Charlie Tomlinson
Hidden 19/Jun/10 2nd
Alexandre Buisse 31/May/10 2nd
with Dave E. Brown
Brown 31/May/10 Lead O/S
with Alexandre Buisse
Hidden 30/May/10 Lead O/S
matt.woodfield 16/May/10 AltLd O/S
Hidden 12/May/10 AltLd
dan ely 10/May/10 AltLd O/S

lead p2

with terry
Adam Booth 09/May/10 Lead O/S

As one pitch.

Hidden 09/May/10 AltLd O/S
Hidden 09/May/10 2nd
willson 03/May/10 AltLd

1st pitch

with Dave, Ali H
Hidden 03/May/10 AltLd O/S
Hidden 03/May/10 AltLd O/S
Hidden 03/May/10 AltLd
edpd1b ?/May/10 Lead
with Rhiannon
Ken Applegate 20/Apr/10 AltLd O/S

Beautiful setting! Led P2. Really nice top pitch, and in-situ ab is worth using!

Stuart_Burbidge 18/Apr/10 AltLd O/S
with Seb Anderson
metal arms 13/Feb/10 AltLd O/S
Hidden ??/2010 AltLd
Hidden ??/2010 AltLd O/S
Rob Evans ??/2010 Lead O/S
Hidden 08/Oct/09 Lead O/S
Hidden 19/Sep/09 AltLd O/S
Ben HW 14/Sep/09 AltLd O/S
with David Browne
mikehenesy 04/Sep/09 AltLd O/S

Got to sit at the top for this one, chris led the first pitch. Second pitch easier than it first appears but non the worse for that. A little wet but great fun!

with Chris Lodge
Hidden 24/Aug/09 2nd rpt
davesb 24/Aug/09 Lead O/S
Liam FLeming 16/Aug/09 Lead O/S
with karen dalzell
lithos 09/Aug/09 AltLd

P2, a great pitch up the crack and corner, fantastic

with cookie
mikelaing ?/Jul/09 Lead
with Ian Whitehead
Hidden 14/Jun/09 AltLd O/S
kleinej 14/Jun/09 Lead O/S
with Jayne J
rd20 14/Jun/09 AltLd O/S


with Loic
Different Steve 14/Jun/09 2nd rpt
with Clare
Hidden 14/Jun/09 AltLd O/S
twright180 ?/Jun/09 Lead O/S
samwisethebrave2 30/May/09 Lead O/S
with Jon Walker
Jonathan Walker 30/May/09 2nd
Jasper peny 30/May/09 2nd O/S
with Julian
Hidden 25/May/09 Lead O/S
drewish 11/May/09 Lead O/S

Lead in a single pitch

with SteveE9
Hidden 11/May/09 2nd O/S
bob johnson 09/May/09 AltLd O/S

bit of balance required on the second pitch.

with Rich Ball
Different Steve 08/May/09 Lead O/S
with Clare
barni 13/Apr/09 AltLd O/S

1st pitch

with Northern
thompson1000 13/Apr/09 AltLd
with Barni
Siany 12/Apr/09 2nd

A fabulous, fun and sustained climb!

with Rob Shepherd
taw ??/2009 AltLd

Led 1st pitch could have been 2008

with Dave sb
davesb ??/2009 AltLd
snakebite 02/Nov/08 Lead O/S

Led 2nd Pitch

Hidden 08/Oct/08 2nd
Hidden 21/Sep/08 AltLd
bobpilgrem 20/Sep/08 AltLd O/S

Lead top pitch- very nice route.

with Bob/Nic
Hidden 30/Aug/08 AltLd O/S
Glyn 29/Jul/08 AltLd O/S
with Trystan
Hidden 26/Jul/08 AltLd O/S
ritchierich 26/Jul/08 AltLd O/S

This climb can be run into 1 pitch if needs be.

Hidden 26/Jul/08 AltLd O/S
plastichead 13/Jul/08 2nd O/S
with Andy
psychicbread 13/Jul/08 Lead O/S
with Mark
Hidden 13/Jul/08 2nd O/S
SGD 01/Jun/08 Lead

another good route, again the 2nd pitch is lovely and eats gear - a great choice for a aspiring VS leader

with Carol Umarova
Hidden 25/May/08 AltLd O/S
Diggler ?/Feb/08 AltLd O/S
popov86 ?/Feb/08 AltLd
robshep 27/Jan/08 AltLd O/S
with Dave Hunnisett
daveagriff ??/2008 Lead
tom_1985 20/Oct/07 AltLd O/S
with Martin Lane
sdawson1 ?/Oct/07 AltLd O/S
with Ray
HeatherF 22/Aug/07 TR O/S

Didnt have much time left so just top roped this on at the end of the day

with Lee and Carwyn
C@rwyn 22/Aug/07 TR O/S

Really was a Lightning Visit at the end of the day - felt really easy on a top rope

with Heather and Lee
sgl0jd ?/Aug/07 AltLd
with Tom Devas
Ing 17/Jun/07 2nd
with Hal and James
halhorner 17/Jun/07 2nd dog

Not going well today!

with James Shand, Ingrid Ferguson
Luke Brooks ?/May/07 -
Urgles 29/Apr/07 Lead O/S

Goes very well as one long 40m pitch

with Beesley
Hidden 07/Apr/07 Lead O/S
richw2k2 06/Apr/07 Lead O/S
with Monika
Moniawl 06/Apr/07 2nd
with rich
richardr ?/Apr/07 -
fran04 ??/2007 AltLd
peter myers ??/2007 -
with Tom Sylvester
Zoomer 24/Sep/06 AltLd

Great 2nd pitch.

with S. Hassel
EAYL 10/Sep/06 AltLd

Wow, awesome route

with Iain
kp64zl ?/Aug/06 AltLd
with Philip S
mje1398 28/May/06 AltLd O/S

I climbed first (4a) pitch, John climbed second (4c) pitch

with John M
Neil Metcalfe101 14/May/06 2nd O/S
with Richard, Tony & Mal.
Hidden 29/Apr/06 Lead O/S
Hidden ??/2006 -
mikelaing ??/2006 -
beardy mike ??/2006 Lead O/S
Hidden ?/Oct/05 Lead β
Hidden 23/Aug/05 Lead
Hidden ?/Aug/05 Lead O/S
steve prior ?/May/05 AltLd
with Andy C
Hidden 12/Aug/04 AltLd
Norman_P_W 12/Aug/04 AltLd
with Bob M
Hidden ?/Jul/04 Lead
Hidden 05/Jun/04 2nd O/S
Hidden 26/Apr/04 AltLd
FrankW 30/Aug/03 2nd O/S
with Joe, Laura
John Kettle ??/2003 AltLd
Roget ??/2003 Lead O/S
with jon
five 03/Aug/02 AltLd O/S
with TW
Hidden 18/May/02 AltLd
taw ??/2002 2nd

date uncertain, one of my first climbs outside

with Paul Blanks
Shaved Atom ??/2001 Lead O/S
WB 16/Jun/00 Lead O/S
with Paul
marcoleptic ??/2000 Lead
with Gibbon Bum
buxtoncoffeelover ?/Jun/99 2nd
Mark Riley ??/1999 AltLd O/S
with Stuart Greenall
Hidden 03/Sep/98 AltLd
Brian Rodgers 31/Aug/98 AltLd O/S
with Geff
lost.arrow 05/Jul/98 Lead
with Gill Heartly
Pete Nugent 30/May/98 -
zero six ??/1998 Lead O/S
Tim Bateman 25/Aug/96 AltLd
with Tim Joseph
Hidden ?/Jun/96 AltLd O/S
Bilbo 28/May/96 2nd

V windy and wet, good holds and slippery cracks. Back end twitching!

with Steve B & Annette
Julian Wedd ??/1996 Lead
with C. Jones
Hidden 12/Sep/95 2nd O/S
babymoac 09/Jul/95 AltLd
with cash
Hidden ?/Jul/95 Lead
Marti999 18/Jun/95 Lead
Tim Bateman 28/May/95 AltLd
Ched ??/1995 Lead O/S
with Glanfor
Hidden 23/Jul/94 AltLd
Hidden 02/Jul/94 Lead O/S
biggianthead 26/Jun/94 -
with HT
Martin Brierley 18/Sep/93 Lead O/S

Should have done Lavaredo Wall, but there was a queue.

with Colin Jones
Hidden 18/Sep/93 AltLd
Hidden 03/Aug/93 Lead
auld al ?/May/93 AltLd O/S
michael burrows 05/Apr/92 2nd rpt
with pete roberts
Hidden ??/1992 -
Iain Thow 14/Aug/91 AltLd

Led pitch 1

with Rob Ivens
frost ?/Aug/91 -
DubyaJamesDubya ??/1991 -
with Nick Oldfield
Rog Wilko ?/Sep/89 Lead
with Debbie Wilkinson
Phil Ingle 27/Aug/89 Lead

Lead Helen Jones up it

AlanLittle ?/Jul/89 Lead
with Tim Dillon
nigehughes ?/Apr/89 AltLd
with Mark Jones
Hidden ??/1989 AltLd
Hidden 10/Jan/88 2nd
Hidden ?/Sep/86 AltLd
Backinthegame ?/Jul/86 Lead O/S

with gary H

with Gary Hughes
Babika 17/Nov/84 Lead O/S
with Jane w
wynaptomos ?/Sep/84 Solo
mikej 15/Nov/81 Lead
with Mike Mason
Hidden 22/Jun/80 Lead
Hidden 05/May/80 Lead
TonyF ?/Aug/79 Lead O/S
with Ian Birkinshaw
Rob Davies 05/Sep/76 Lead
with Mike Papworth
Bolt Phobia 18/Feb/76 AltLd
with John Broadwell
Nigel Bond 27/Jun/75 Lead
with Rob
RichardMc 04/May/75 AltLd
with Ken Salter, Betty Seifert
Dave Musgrove 20/Jun/71 AltLd
with Bob Knapton
tapley 02/Aug/70 2nd
with Tony Ward
Seymore Butt ??/1970 -
greenbuoy 27/Aug/69 2nd
with A N Other
eroica64 01/Jun/66 Lead
with Eric Reynolds
Users with this climb on their wishlist are:
MattKnight, Jack Manfredi, tom jefferies, jandyd05, druss, SamanthaRoach12, Tom Hutton, Ann S, David Pye, Hidden, Hidden, gareth r
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