Talk to the Hand* VS 4c
16m. High in the grade. Start 3m right of Back Off, at the lowest point of the slab. Climb easily up the mini arete, crossing the diagonal crack of Bishop's Move, to the horizontal break. Follow the left trending crack in the slab above, and make a tricky finish over the slight overlap to the tree (as for Back Off). Adequately protected but the higher placements are fiddly - micros may be useful.
B Mullan, C Lindley 31/Oct/2010

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Rob Morgan - 2nd - 05/Oct/14

Steve Bartle - Lead O/S - 05/Oct/14 with Rob Morgan

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 04/Oct/14

Hidden - Lead rpt - 04/Oct/14

steve_gibbs - Lead O/S - 27/Sep/14 with John Harris, Jamie Roberts

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Sep/14

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 04/Sep/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 12/Aug/14

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 12/Aug/14

Didn't feel that bold with micros. Quite sustained for the grade. Good slab practice.
georgeevans88 - Lead O/S - 03/Aug/14 with Caitlin

will_benfold - 2nd rpt - 03/Aug/14 with Sarah Woodrow

Pintsize - Lead O/S - 03/Aug/14 with Will Benfold

spenser - Lead O/S - 27/Jul/14 with Andrew Rembrandt

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 27/Jul/14

Tom F Harding - Lead O/S - 12/Jul/14

This is definitely not VS. I have done E1s with better gear which on this route is so fiddly and shallow. Moves are easy but my head was telling me I can't fall on this.
Chris Sieradzki - Lead O/S - 06/Jul/14 with Hooo

Hooo - 2nd - 06/Jul/14 with Chris Sieradzki

marsden.d.paul - Lead O/S - 03/Jul/14 with Tom Blight

thomb - 03/Jul/14 with Paul

trwolfe13 - 2nd O/S - 29/Jun/14 with Cameron Hall

will_benfold - 2nd O/S - 29/Jun/14 with Tim Culwick

cameron_hall - Lead O/S - 29/Jun/14 with Tom Wolfe

Hidden - 2nd - 29/Jun/14

Enjoyable. Bold.
Snorfalorpagus - Lead O/S - 29/Jun/14 with Aileen Robertson

Hidden - Lead rpt - 12/Jun/14

upontop - Lead O/S - 05/Jun/14 with Chris

brian watson - Lead O/S - 05/Jun/14

felixizzy - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/14 with Jack

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/May/14

Hidden - 2nd - 26/May/14

Hidden - TR rpt - 26/May/14

Hidden - Lead - 19/May/14

Vincej - 2nd - 19/May/14 with Nevil

Alessandro Tentori - 2nd O/S - 17/May/14 with Kirsten Donovan

kirsten - Lead - 17/May/14 with alessandro tentori

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/May/14

Easty14 - Lead - 16/Apr/14

Hidden - TR O/S - 11/Oct/13

Easty14 - 2nd - 05/Oct/13

Pete Randall - Lead O/S - 05/Oct/13 with Seb, Pete Neden

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 05/Oct/13

Matt Amos - Lead O/S - 20/Sep/13

Learning to trust my feet on slabs!
Deary65 - Lead O/S - 31/Aug/13

Felix Ottey - Lead O/S - 25/Aug/13

wurzelinzummerset - Lead O/S - 09/Aug/13 with Nick

stoneback - 2nd O/S - 09/Aug/13 with Alan

MoWalker3 - 07/Aug/13 with Cormac

riddle - Solo O/S - 04/Aug/13

petegunn - 2nd - 21/Jul/13 with Davina

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/Jul/13

Adrian Daniels - Lead - 21/Jul/13 with John Parrott, Steve Webster

Hidden - Lead - 16/Jul/13

The Ivanator - 2nd rpt - 05/Jul/13 with Dave

davenev - Lead O/S - 05/Jul/13 with Ivan

fishinwater - Lead - 18/Jun/13 with Rob H

BruceW - Lead O/S - 08/Jun/13 with Becca

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/Jun/13

Rushed it; placing crap, run-out runners, and made a quick dash for the tree at the top!
tolly_60 - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/13

Marti999 - 2nd O/S - 31/May/13 with Ben Hallett, Debbie

TimPerkin - Lead - 26/May/13 with Tom Perkin

So it has the same crux as Back Off? That makes it 5b doesn't it? Go over the overlap 1 metre to the right to make it 4c. Cracking route though.
johnl - Lead O/S - 25/May/13 with Adam Perrett

carl_123 - Lead O/S - 22/May/13

Cheese Monkey - Lead O/S - 17/May/13 with Mike

Mayaculpa - 2nd - 17/May/13 with Ben

gjh - Lead O/S - 06/May/13

kate tarrant - Lead O/S - May/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/Apr/13

kirsten - Lead - 21/Apr/13 with Brian

Still not sure of the grade of this!
bpmclimb - Lead rpt - 21/Apr/13 with Kirsten

Ian JL - Lead O/S - 06/Oct/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Sep/12

bpmclimb - Lead rpt - 19/Aug/12 with Clare

Pylon King Against Capit@lism - 2nd rpt - 19/Aug/12 with bpmclimb

Felt top end VS, top end 4c but not HVS as there were some really good nut placements right where I needed them at half height. Gave up trying to place the micro wire below the overlap though as the placement didn't look like it would hold a 90kg fall. The moves over the overlap weren't too difficult once committed. Possibly the best route of the day.
Big Lee - Lead O/S - 21/Jul/12 with Alan

The Ivanator - Lead rpt - 28/May/12 with Jez

On reflection, I think it's vs 4c but you could persuade me it's hvs 4c
jezb1 - 2nd - 28/May/12

Top of both tech and adjectival grades, led on Stu's in situ gear. Nice route, well worth a *
The Ivanator - Lead O/S - 02/May/12 with Mick Ward, Brian, Stu

bpmclimb - TR rpt - 02/May/12 with Shunt

Gear in situ.
bpmclimb - Lead rpt - 02/May/12 with Stu, Ivan, Mick

VS/HVS 4c/5a. Right on the cusp. Still inclined to go with top end VS, after comparison with Caveman and Jiggery Pokery over on the Glacis.
bpmclimb - 2nd rpt - 13/Aug/11 with Helen S

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Aug/11

Tom lead I seconded
blum - 2nd β - 03/Jul/11 with Tom Starks

Tom lead I seconded. Nice route
blum - 2nd β - 03/Jul/11 with Tom Starks

Climbed to help confirm a grade in the new guide. Personally think its HVS 4C, the gear looked too shallow and small in my opinion for it to be VS.
Stanners - TR O/S - 19/Jun/11 with Mark Davis, Jack Bradbrook

Debate on the grade between Rob and Mark was beginning to annoy me and so I decided to top rope it myself as a warm down to find out how hard it really was, I think I agree with Rob HVS 4c seem about right.
Quarryboy - TR O/S - 19/Jun/11 with Rob Stanfield, Mark Davies

Led this time to remove dagger. Top end VS 4c as some of the gear is fiddly and the move over the overlap is borderline 4c/5a and protected by a microwire.
Pylon King Against Capit@lism - Lead rpt - 19/Jun/11

Pylon King Against Capit@lism - TR - 04/Jun/11 with Mr Shunt

Possibly VS 4c.
bpmclimb - Lead rpt - 03/Mar/11 with Clare

FA (although very likely done before). Links start of Travel Bug to last couple of moves of Back Off, via a nice crack which takes good gear.
bpmclimb - Lead O/S - 31/Oct/10 with Clare

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