Darklands*** E3 5c
[Messing around on a wet day in the Lakes., 3 kb]An impressive route through the overhangs with some unusual moves. Start in a slabby corner R. of Hot Pies etc. Climb the corner and pull out R. past a bolt to reach a ledge and good spike. Move up L. across a slab and make a hard move up into a hanging groove (bolt). Step R. (bolt) and make a long blind reach over the next roof for a good hold. Throw caution to the wind and haul over the roof past another bolt to gain easier ground. Move up and R. past a slot to gain the easier finishing groove.
Martin Dale & Rich Kirby 1990

Ticklists: Victim Of Mathematics' Ticklist of Extreme Justice.

Photo: Messing around on a wet day in the Lakes. © DaveWarburton
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This climb is in 61 logbooks, and on 28 wishlists.

Great route, looked at it for years, went sweet! The pocket is quite high up stretch!...Becks belayed then I stripped it. Showers/Midges. We re bolted this along with several other routes/abseil points for groups to use, as the 'old' bolts were just that...old. In response to somebody else's comment about bringing the grade down to E1/E2, my response is if you knew just how far the 'old' bolts weren't in then the original E3 grade might as well have been E silly, as a fall could have resulted in ripping them out. (hardly in...) if your that obsessed about making it pure my advice would be to not clip the 'new' bolts and use some of the existing 'old' ones and use natural pro (lot's of by the way if you look). Me personally, I clipped the 'new' bolts and loved every minute of it! Knowing that they were 6" into the rock rather that the previous 1/2"...you decide ;-) A fine route.
beds74 - Lead - 19/Jun/15 with Rebecca Edwards

greenclimb - Lead O/S - 26/May/15

Ben Cianchi - 2nd O/S - 09/Apr/15

Fantastic route. Should have warmed up and psyched up before jumping on it.
Paul Robertson - Lead dog - 28/Sep/14 with DSM

tmawer - 2nd rpt - 14/Sep/14 with Mike Norbry, Jaime Robertson

airborne - Lead O/S - 29/Jul/14 with Huw Davies

Amazing, felt sketch
Ross.Cooper - Lead O/S - 18/Jul/14 with Patrick Hill

Patrick Hill - 2nd O/S - 18/Jul/14 with Ross Cooper

Clipped the bolt abopve the crux but fell off while placing the rope through it, took a whipper and scraped my hand. Wish I could have found that amazing pocket just below the bolt. Thought better of it- to be saved for another day. Had to ab off the top to collect the quick draws as no-one else fancied it.
David Woods - Lead dnf - 13/Jun/14 with Joe Holden

Hidden - 2nd - 27/Apr/14

Hidden - 2014

mileshill540 - 2nd - 2014

joe_lancs - Lead O/S - 03/Aug/13

it's a beast !
JanBella - 2nd O/S - 08/Jun/13 with simon

Fantastic route! agree about the cheeky pocket being hard to find.
scott quinn - Lead O/S - 29/May/13

An excellent route, the cheeky pocket was tricky to find. Good climbing throughout and the sun had his hat on :)
petegunn - Lead - 19/Apr/13 with Davina

Hidden - 2nd dog - 19/Apr/13

Hidden - Apr/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/Aug/12

Pete Graham - Lead - 28/Apr/11 with Rick Graham

darlolad - 2nd O/S - 27/Aug/10

agree with the e1/2 grade. only 5 bolts on the route as far as i remember but they protect the harder moves. really enjoyed it
tim newton - Lead O/S - 26/Aug/10 with ben hiles

not sure how it was before, but unfortunately not e3 with the number of bolts in it now
dave o - Lead O/S - 21/Aug/10 with Julia H

Hidden - 2nd dog - 19/Sep/09

datoon - Lead O/S - 28/Jun/09 with K

Did in 2 pitches to reduce rope drag and try to save some time. In the end it didn't save time and i was more psyched to do 'An Alabuse' after discovering, Darklands E1/2 nature.
Dave Warburton - AltLd O/S - 25/Jun/09 with Franco Cookson

Hidden - 12/Jun/09

dannyboy83 - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/09 with Steve Mayer

ilikemonkys - Lead - 17/Apr/09 with mike

E1/2 in current state. whoever retro-bolted this should be ashamed.
Franco Cookson OLD - Lead O/S - 2009 with David Warburton

Hidden - Lead dog - 2009

Hidden - 2nd - 14/Sep/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Sep/08

lukehunt - Lead O/S - 23/Aug/08 with Rob

Gutted! Couldn't find the crux pocket and ended up lowering off in shame. Will be back to complete this route.
climbingpixie - Lead dnf - 29/Jun/08 with Andy Hobson

Brilliant route
Shaw Brown - Lead - 03/Jun/08 with John Hollingworth

Andy S - 2nd rpt - 22/May/08 with Frith

John Kettle - Lead O/S - 23/Aug/07

Hidden - Lead - 10/Jul/07

Rob Rocket - 2nd - 10/Jul/07

Hidden - Lead O/S - 10/Jul/07

C coldwell-storry - Lead O/S - 2007 with Paddy Cave

NOT E3. In fact, I've since spoken to the first ascentionist and he has confirmed that more bolts have been put in since he put it up. Originally, he graded it E4 and the grade settled to E3 after a few repeats. Since then, more bolts have been put in. Whoever put those extra bolts in did wrong. Totally unnecessary.
Andy S - Lead O/S - 23/Jul/05 with Heather

Hidden - Lead β - 2005

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 18/Jul/01

Hidden - Lead O/S - 28/Aug/00

DavidEvans - Lead - 27/Jul/00 with John Helme

Bulls Crack - Lead O/S - Jun/00

DavidEvans - 2nd - 1999 with William Wilson

Hidden - Lead - 03/May/98

uphillnow - 2nd - Jul/96 with Frank Horseman

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jul/96

neilh - Lead O/S - 23/Sep/95 with sara hyde

Roget - Lead rpt - 27/Aug/95 with jon

ewar woowar - 2nd - 1995

Roget - 2nd - 30/May/94 with colin

Ghastly Rubberfeet - 2nd - 1994 with Tony Brindle

Hidden - Lead - 09/May/93

Hidden - Lead O/S - 07/Jun/92

Hidden - Lead - 1990

First ascent - both led.
Rich Kirby - Lead - 1988 with Martin Dale

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